MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7

[Neil__C]

How about a Windows 7 modified version just for those who have donated? I'd really love to use full functionality in Win 7.

Regards

[hveijk]

Thanks for showing your appreciation.

I have made Windows 7 enabled versions of MST and LEDSdriver. No Windows 7 specific features yet, just removed the block.

Unfortunately I did not have the time to fully test them yet (my main HTPC is still running Vista).

Since the latest builds of W7 are very usable for the daring among us I do no longer want to keep them from you:

     ledsdriver09018.exe (removed, there is a newer version on the SlickSolutions website.

     mst09095.exe (removed it, a new version can be found further in the thread)

Pleas let me know how well they do.

[chakotay2]

I tried the windows 7 version.  Initially I wasn't able to open the configuration from the task bar, I had to go into program files and run as administrator.  After that it ran just fine.

Although the program seems to be running, it doesn't seem to do anything to put my computer into sleep mode.  I have it to go into S3 but doesn't seem to ever put the computer to sleep... Maybe something I am doing?

If I have the MCE Standby tool pulled up (vs running in background) it works fine... but when it's running in the taskbar it won't shut down the computer.  I am guessing this has something to do with the fact that when I do open the config from the taskbar it asks me "do you want to allow the following unsigned program to...blah blah blah"  The User account control features are probably preventing it from working completely.  Just my guess though.


Also, even though I have it set to start media center always, it won't.  Even on reboot Media center used to start, now it won't.

Anyway, this is just what I am experiencing... could totally be just my system or setup.

Thanks!

[fattim]

I too can't get W7 to go to S3.  I have noticed that the Last User Input counter under the IDLE never changes from Zero - The Media Centre counter works OK but the LUI is always zero.  My W7 media install is pretty well finished except for this power issue, so any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

 

[Borri]

I still use Vista but read about Windows 7 in the new C'T-magazine and there is short passage about the energy configuration in Windows 7. It says and I quote:

There is a new tool in Windows 7, called Power Config, which helps to configurate your computer as energy efficient as possible and helps to track down problems. Start the Command Prompt as Administrator type the command: powercfg /energy The program will monitor your computer for a minute and produces a HTML-page with info. This will show which hardware refreign the PC from going to S3-mode or which energy-settings are more efficient.

Maybe you all already know this or maybe it won't help but I thought I had to share this.

[chakotay2]

Results posted for troubleshooting / assistance

Power Efficiency Diagnostics Report
Computer Name HAL-MEDIA
Scan Time 2009-03-30T09:19:55Z
Scan Duration 60 seconds 
System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Product Name EP45-UD3P
BIOS Date 02/24/2009
BIOS Version F8
OS Build 7057
Platform Role PlatformRoleDesktop
Plugged In true
Process Count 55
Thread Count 776
Report GUID {4a8c68fb-05a9-44b8-88f7-3ce82ab2f5de} 

Analysis Results
Errors
Power Policy:Power Plan Personality is High Performance (Plugged In)
The current power plan personality is High Performance when the system is plugged in.
Power Policy:Minimum processor performance state is 100% (Plugged In)
The processor is not configured to automatically reduce power consumption based on activity.
Power Policy:USB Selective Suspend is disabled (Plugged In)
The current power policy has globally disabled USB selective suspend.
Power Policy:PCI Express ASPM is disabled (Plugged In)
The current power policy for PCI Express Active State Power Management (ASPM) is configured to Off.
System Availability Requests:System Required Request
A kernel component has made a request to prevent the system from automatically entering sleep.
USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 2
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A36
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A3C
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A37
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A39
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 2
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A39
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A38
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A38
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A34
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A3A
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A35
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Composite Device
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_05AF&PID_3062
Port Path 2

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name eHome Infrared Receiver (USBCIR)
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_0471&PID_0815
Port Path 1

CPU Utilization:Processor utilization is high
The average processor utilization during the trace was high. The system will consume less power when the average processor utilization is very low. Review processor utilization for individual processes to determine which applications and services contribute the most to total processor utilization.
Average Utilization (%) 34.55

Platform Power Management Capabilities:PCI Express Active-State Power Management (ASPM) Disabled
PCI Express Active-State Power Management (ASPM) has been disabled due to a known incompatibility with the hardware in this computer.
Warnings
Platform Timer Resolution:Platform Timer Resolution
The default platform timer resolution is 15.6ms (15625000ns) and should be used whenever the system is idle. If the timer resolution is increased, processor power management technologies may not be effective. The timer resolution may be increased due to multimedia playback or graphical animations.
Current Timer Resolution (100ns units) 100000
Maximum Timer Period (100ns units) 156001

Platform Timer Resolution:Outstanding Timer Request
A program or service has requested a timer resolution smaller than the platform maximum timer resolution.
Requested Period 100000
Requesting Process ID 3780
Requesting Process Path \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe

Power Policy:Display timeout is long (Plugged In)
The display is configured to turn off after longer than 10 minutes.
Timeout (seconds) 10800

Power Policy:Sleep timeout is long (Plugged In)
The computer is configured to automatically sleep after longer than 30 minutes.
Timeout (seconds) 10800

Power Policy:802.11 Radio Power Policy is Maximum Performance (Plugged In)
The current power policy for 802.11-compatible wireless network adapters is not configured to use low-power modes.
CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name ehrecvr.exe
PID 3780
Average Utilization (%) 17.77
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 8.94
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 2.48
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\sbe.dll 1.91

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name System
PID 4
Average Utilization (%) 7.50
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\halmacpi.dll 2.94
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 2.75
\SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\volsnap.sys 1.05

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name SearchIndexer.exe
PID 3464
Average Utilization (%) 3.37
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\esent.dll 1.08
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\mssrch.dll 0.47
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 0.41

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name SearchProtocolHost.exe
PID 4804
Average Utilization (%) 2.80
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 0.69
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 0.43
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\shell32.dll 0.26

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name lsass.exe
PID 524
Average Utilization (%) 1.37
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 0.79
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\rpcrt4.dll 0.20
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 0.20

Information
Platform Timer Resolution:Timer Request Stack
The stack of modules responsible for the lowest platform timer setting in this process.
Requested Period 100000
Requesting Process ID 3780
Requesting Process Path \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe
Calling Module Stack  \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\winmm.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\Mpeg2Data.ax
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\quartz.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\MSVidCtl.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\kernel32.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\user32.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\kernel32.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll

Power Policy:Active Power Plan
The current power plan in use
Plan Name  OEM High Performance 
Plan GUID {8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c}

Power Policy:Power Plan Personality (Plugged In)
The personality of the current power plan when the system is plugged in.
Personality High Performance 

Power Policy:Video quality (Plugged In)
Enables Windows Media Player to optimize for quality or power savings when playing video.
Quality Mode Optimize for Video Quality 

Battery:Analysis Success
Analysis was successful. No energy efficiency problems were found. No information was returned.
Platform Power Management Capabilities:Supported Sleep States
Sleep states allow the computer to enter low-power modes after a period of inactivity. The S3 sleep state is the default sleep state for Windows platforms. The S3 sleep state consumes only enough power to preserve memory contents and allow the computer to resume working quickly. Very few platforms support the S1 or S2 Sleep states.
S1 Sleep Supported false
S2 Sleep Supported false
S3 Sleep Supported true
S4 Sleep Supported true

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities
Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption.
Group 0
Index 0
Idle (C) State Count 1
Performance (P) State Count 2
Throttle (T) State Count 8

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities
Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption.
Group 0
Index 1
Idle (C) State Count 1
Performance (P) State Count 2
Throttle (T) State Count 8

[Borri]

@chakotay2
A kernel component has made a request to prevent the system from automatically entering sleep.
USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 2
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A36
Port Path 

It seems like the problem is one of your USB devices or the USB driver. Try disconnecting all USB devices(even your IR-receiver) and enter sleep again. When this works it's one of your devices, if it doesn't it's probably your USB driver or USB-BIOS settings. Did you mark the "Disable selective USB suspend" in the MCE Standby Tool? If you did you were right about MCE Standby Tool doing nothing to put your computer in to sleep.
Did you turn of UAC?

[chakotay2]

Maybe I will disable UAC first...  it seems to work when running maxmized but not when minimized in the system tray (or whatever the win7 term is)  I hate to disable UAC though... is there another way to give it full access?

[Borri]

Strange, I love to disable UAC! If you have a up to date virus-scanner and a good spyware removal tool disabling UAC shouldn't be a problem.

[chakotay2]

Ok, preliminary testing seems like it's working now.

One of the issues I was running into is that in Windows 7 it defaults to manage and wake up using LAN.  I shut that off and lowered UAC to off and it works... I still couldn't get media center to startup on a reboot (I selected it in standby tool and in media center general).  A quick shortcut pasted in startup solved that issue.

I will test like this for a while and see what happens.  Not sure why MCE standby tool is preventing Media Center from starting up on restart w/o putting the shortcut in start programs but I can certainly live with that.

Once I see it's working I probably will turn UAC back on to see if that breaks it... (in an ideal world I wouldn't have messed with two different things at once to get it working (LAN power config and UAC) but I got really tired of messing with it and used a shotgun approach...  Maybe someone else has a different result.

Thanks!

[fattim]

Hi,
I have followed the suggestions in this post - my observation that the Idle timer doesn't update isn't a bug - I disabled the UAC, network and all USB - I got the Idle timer to start, when it reached the shutdown time, it went to S3 - MAGIC!  I re-enabled the devices one at a time - I got the network back, UAC and Ehome USB receiver - all OK - add in the USB Keyboard & Mouse (Microsoft Wireless 3000) and the system won't sleep (Idle counter won't start counting) remove the usb Keyb/Mouse and it starts counting and shuts down OK.  I have reported this to M$. I will post their reply.

Thanks

Fattim.

[Sparky]

Hi Herman,

I've found on Windows 7, that using the version 0.9.095, on the Windows idle tab, its not possible to increase the max idleness allowed from 0%.

Also, on the devices tab, pressing refresh doesn't appear to return a list of usb devices attached.

Thanks
TP

[Sparky]

Hi Herman,

sorry, found a problem with your latest beta application - when using Windows 7 Media Center, and the application is running, but no user input is being performed, the counter for Media Center remains at 0:00, whereas the user input is being correctly reported - unfortunately this means, that if MC is running when then pc resumes, it never goes back to sleep  Shocked

Let me know if you would like a log file uploading to show this problem?

Thanks
Tony

[Sparky]

Hi Herman,

I've noticed recently, that when the pc is already resumed, say for a recording, mst blanker is running, and I can't come out of it - the only method I've got of being able to get back to my desktop or MC, is to kill mst 

Thanks

[makryger]

Sparky, are you using build 7100 when this happens, or is it an earlier build? I just installed 7100, and this is happening. Everything worked perfectly in build 7000, but now it gets stuck on autoresume. It detects a user input, but doesn't respond to it at all.