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« Reply #120 on: 6 December 2009, 19:08:38 »

Hello.  I've gotten a report from a MST user who is also using my SrvrPowerCtrl plugin for Squeezebox Server.  The user reports that his Windows 7 Media Center machine will not remain awake after being WOLed.  Squeezebox Server uses the windows kernel SetThreadExecutionState API to keep a machine from going into standby when the server software is streaming audio to a Squeezebox device.

Does MST in any way interfere with or otherwise cause the system to ignore calls to SetThreadExecutionState?  I wouldn't think so, but the symptoms that the user reports are vary mysterious.  I'm not a MST user myself, so I have no knowledge of how your utility works.

Thanks..
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« Reply #121 on: 7 December 2009, 12:32:14 »

Hello.  I've gotten a report from a MST user who is also using my SrvrPowerCtrl plugin for Squeezebox Server.  The user reports that his Windows 7 Media Center machine will not remain awake after being WOLed.  Squeezebox Server uses the windows kernel SetThreadExecutionState API to keep a machine from going into standby when the server software is streaming audio to a Squeezebox device.

Does MST in any way interfere with or otherwise cause the system to ignore calls to SetThreadExecutionState?  I wouldn't think so, but the symptoms that the user reports are vary mysterious.  I'm not a MST user myself, so I have no knowledge of how your utility works.

Thanks..

When using the latest beta (0.9.098) removing the “Ignore applications that prevent suspend” check will make MST respect the ThreadExecutionState.
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« Reply #122 on: 23 December 2009, 17:40:00 »

I've found that restarting the Windows Media Center Receiver (ehRecvr) service cures a lot of problems when I see 'tuner not available' errors with my Hauppauge Nova-T-500 card.

Would it be possible to incorporate a service restart option into the eHome tab?
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« Reply #123 on: 28 December 2009, 04:55:14 »

Thanks for a great tool, fixing all those problems caused by others.... happy

Anyhow wanted to post my experiences.

I'm using Windows 7 64bit Retail.  blink

If I do a fresh install of vs 0.9.098 it doesn't work just saying disabled when it should go to sleep.
Yet if I install 0.9.091 it reports as a trojan to Kaspersky, so I turn it off then when I install 0.9.98 it works. Tongue

I am having to use a .bat file to run devcon to restart DVB card because of DVBLink. Maybe you could add this sort of ability.

But still thanks a bunch
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« Reply #124 on: 1 January 2010, 21:39:17 »

Great App, I have setup on 2 of 3 W7 PC's (older hardware) that were not going to standby correctly.

Only issue I have is that these PC's all share Recorded TV, while watching TV from another PC it will go into standby. Can / could MST monitor the recorded tv folder for use? 

Any suggestions?

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« Reply #125 on: 3 January 2010, 14:20:08 »

--Hi Herman,

I have a problem now that I have installed W7 final, that I didn't have on the beta W7: MST doesnt do automatic rebooting anymore. The 'reboot' tab shows no reboots (or sometimes one just after I enabled it), and the log doesnt show any attempts at rebooting.

I've tried switching it off, and back on, but nothing seems to help. Any ideas? Let me know if you need anything to troubleshoot with.

And separately; any ideas yet about supporting TMT3 and PDVD so the system doesn't sleep during playback? I'd love to put my sleep timer lower but right now I can't really. Thanks!
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« Reply #126 on: 4 January 2010, 12:47:22 »

Thanks for a great tool, fixing all those problems caused by others.... happy

Anyhow wanted to post my experiences.

I'm using Windows 7 64bit Retail.  blink

If I do a fresh install of vs 0.9.098 it doesn't work just saying disabled when it should go to sleep.

Can you give me a little more details? "saying disabled" doesn't mean anything to me.

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Yet if I install 0.9.091 it reports as a trojan to Kaspersky, so I turn it off then when I install 0.9.98 it works. Tongue

I am having to use a .bat file to run devcon to restart DVB card because of DVBLink. Maybe you could add this sort of ability.

But still thanks a bunch

The maximum time the system can be held back while entering standby is limited by Windows Vista and even more by Windows 7.
Officially the maximum delay is 2 seconds! Everything longer is not guaranteed.

This is why a devcon script (or something simular) will never be executed reliably when entering standby.
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« Reply #127 on: 4 January 2010, 12:48:19 »

Great App, I have setup on 2 of 3 W7 PC's (older hardware) that were not going to standby correctly.

Only issue I have is that these PC's all share Recorded TV, while watching TV from another PC it will go into standby. Can / could MST monitor the recorded tv folder for use? 

Any suggestions?

Nudge



I will look into this, don't expect it to be in 0.9.099.
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« Reply #128 on: 4 January 2010, 12:50:11 »

--Hi Herman,

I have a problem now that I have installed W7 final, that I didn't have on the beta W7: MST doesnt do automatic rebooting anymore. The 'reboot' tab shows no reboots (or sometimes one just after I enabled it), and the log doesnt show any attempts at rebooting.

I've tried switching it off, and back on, but nothing seems to help. Any ideas? Let me know if you need anything to troubleshoot with.

I soon hope to release 0.9.099 which will be much more reliable under Windows 7 (read "Will have better work-arounds for the Windows bugs).

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And separately; any ideas yet about supporting TMT3 and PDVD so the system doesn't sleep during playback? I'd love to put my sleep timer lower but right now I can't really. Thanks!

They are on the list!
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« Reply #129 on: 4 January 2010, 23:24:10 »

"Can you give me a little more details? "saying disabled" doesn't mean anything to me."

'Win Idle' page,  'Time remaining until suspend'.  There is a count down then when it should sleep it just says Disabled where the timer was.

I am still having trouble changing this in a clean install.  Seems my earlier version work around was a one off.


I run devcon on resume, not entering sleep.

Anyhow look forward to 0.9.0.99
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« Reply #130 on: 5 January 2010, 12:35:33 »

'Win Idle' page,  'Time remaining until suspend'.  There is a count down then when it should sleep it just says Disabled where the timer was.

OK, this page is there mend to debug the idle detection of Windows itself, not to configure it!

Use the power options from the control panel to enable this detection.

The MST idle detection can be configured through the "idle" an "Auto task" tabs.
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« Reply #131 on: 5 January 2010, 17:11:48 »

Herman,
lot's of compliments for this geat app. I have been using version 91 under vista and it was just perfect. Now I have version 98 under W7 and I have a number of strange behaviours.

1. It seems to mess with my Fire DTV S2 TV card. After waking up the card is reported to be unavailable. Not always and I have not figured out a pattern yet.

2. Very strange:
    - I hit the "Live TV" Button on my remote and the PC goes to sleep.
    - I wake it up again (via power button), press "Live TV" again and Live TV start (reporting, that the card is not available.
  I also had it when pressing EPG or the green button . . .

Regarding the second point, I have attached the log file below:

- I booted at 12:54 and listened to music for some time (media center not started)
- at 16:31:12 I pressed "LiveTV" and PC goes to sleep
- at 16:31:33 I hit the power button to wake the PC again
- not sure if the second "LiveTV" is in this log.

Any Idea, what I'm doing wrong? I have also attached a PDF with my configurations.

Many thanks for your help, Georg

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Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.181 - Starting MCE Standby Tool
                              MST Version         : 0.9.098
                              Build               : Jul 15 2009, 21:07:40
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.181 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.181 - Initialisation done
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.805 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.805 - ExecutionState: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:38.803 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:40.834 - ExecutionState: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:53.290 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:58.347 - User input detected (68375)
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:55:16.605 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:56:10.436 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:57:23.397 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:57:51.883 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:57:58.034 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:01:02.583 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:02:15.593 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:47:07.781 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:57:10.653 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:57:26.242 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 14:00:47.099 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.769 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.771 - 'Media Center is running and idle' idle period detected
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.772 - Entering Standby
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.774 - cSuspendInitiator - Resumed
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.874 - cSuspendInitiator - Sleep done
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.876 - cSuspendInitiator - EnterStandby()
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:14.426 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:14.433 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.141 - PBT_APMSUSPEND (Suspend from user interaction)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.142 - Blank
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.143 - eHome is running, closing by sending terminate signal (Handle=00040578 ProcessId=00001414)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.144 - eHome boost successful (8000->0080)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:18.589 - Terminate signal send, result=0
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:19.483 - Close request successfully finished (3338ms)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:19.587 - Delaying suspend for 1000 milliseconds.
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:20.588 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (4446ms)
                              ...
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:33.778 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.567 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (18782ms)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.568 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.582 - Resuming userinterface
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.583 - RestoreTargets()
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.584 - UnBlank(true)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.623 - Ehome.IsRunning() == false
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.624 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (63ms)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.689 - cSuspendInitiator - EnterStandby() done
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.690 - cSuspendInitiator - Suspend()
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:32:21.704 - User input detected (13110885)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:32:33.875 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:33:15.472 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:34:29.534 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:34:42.747 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP


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« Reply #132 on: 6 January 2010, 02:35:40 »

I have 2 problems that in combination are somewhat annoying:
1) When the system wakes up for a recoding it sees some user input that I'm not sure where that is coming from. I don't have any keyboard or mouse connected.
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:31.970 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for automatic task)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.380 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (5413ms)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.530 - cSuspendInitiator - EnterStandby() done
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.660 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.670 - cSuspendInitiator - Suspend()
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.690 - Resuming userinterface
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.690 - RestoreTargets()
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.000 - eHome ResumeStart()
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.010 - Move to Recorded TV first
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.150 - Start at / Move to selected page
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.320 - Ehome.IsRunning() == true
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.360 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (765ms)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:24:32.650 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:24:44.820 - User input detected (26974741)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:29:03.390 - Number of active recordings: 1
Tue 05 Jan 2010 18:00:01.045 - Number of active recordings: 0

2) The above coupled with the problem that I have to set the idle timeout to 3 hours to allow me to watch Netflix makes my system run fo 3 hours after each recording. Otherwise when watching Netflix (all in Win7) the system goes to sleep after the idle timeout while I am in the middle of a movie.
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« Reply #133 on: 6 January 2010, 12:41:46 »

@geku:

1. This is probably a result of the priority boost 0.9.098 gives eHome when closing it. This will be removed in the next version. A temporary solution is to change the MST eHome_BoostAtClose registry value to 0.

2. The media center idle counter apparently is not being reset at the time media center is started; this combined with a not detected keystroke (non MS remote?) might cause this. I have improved the start detection for the next version.

@ cuxbahh:

What sleep state are you using?

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« Reply #134 on: 6 January 2010, 18:48:11 »

Hi Herman,

thanks for the quick reply. Really appreciate your effort and donation is coming your way  . . .

1. This is probably a result of the priority boost 0.9.098 gives eHome when closing it. This will be removed in the next version. A temporary solution is to change the MST eHome_BoostAtClose registry value to 0.

Can I set this value via the UI of MST? Which option is it?

2. The media center idle counter apparently is not being reset at the time media center is started; this combined with a not detected keystroke (non MS remote?) might cause this. I have improved the start detection for the next version.

I'm using a Windows Remote, but the Antec Fusion Case, which has a built in receiver.


Looking forward tothe next Version   Roll Eyes

Georg
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