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Title: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: jex77er on 6 December 2008, 16:51:09
Hi All

First thing I have to say is that this is GREAT app!

I'm trying to use it on Windows 7 build 6801, but the app doesn't start. I have to run it in Vista compatibility mode, and then I get access to the basic functions.

There isn't much in the way of a diagnostic log since it wont start in a service 'mode'

Has any one run tried this yet, or is there a new Beta build available for testing?

Cheers

Paul


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: kaajee on 14 December 2008, 09:49:53
I saw another post (http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,5011.msg26077.html#msg26077) with the request for Windows 7 for/from Herman. Why hazzle/bother the maker of these fine programs with questions about support of his free programs for a still non-existing Operating System?

That you people probably use illegal downloads, doesn't mean that Herman also has to do the same.......


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 15 December 2008, 12:50:31
Thanks  for sharing your findings.

I already knew this, simply because it's 'by design'.

The only reason I did this is creating the possibility of commercializing my tools at some point. I have no serious plans yet, just considering the options.

I have chosen this approach because I didn't think running the current pre-beta versions of Windows 7 for everyday use is a serious option so nobody would be hurt. Another option is to turn it into a time bomb so the tools will at least work until the final of Windows 7 will be released.

“Why?” you might wonder. Not to nag anybody or because I don’t want you to use it on Windows 7. Contributing to a better Mediacenter experience has always been and still is my main drive.

The 81.000 downloads until now turned into 60 donations. This is one out of 1.333. A little disappointing isn’t it? Especially for something that directly saves a number of you tens of euros per year on their electricity bill.

After paying my hosting bills there might just be enough left to get me a single Windows 7 license from last years donations.

Not much left for new development tools or upgrading hardware...

Private users and system builders that don’t feel donating makes a difference are SERIOUSLY taking the risk of me loosing interest in the project. It’s your choice but I am sure it’s not what most of you want.

A new toy every now and then and a little appreciation is what keeps a man going.

So whenever you feel ANY piece of freeware is useful to you consider if it's worth keeping alive by making a small contribution.

Herman


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: kaajee on 15 December 2008, 13:02:40
Bravo!

(Just out of curiosity: those 60 payers, are the two 'Windows 7 users' among them?)


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 15 December 2008, 16:18:18
Thanks for the information, and the thoughtful response. It’s good to know that your software will not require any major fixes when Windows 7 comes out. I was planning on waiting until the next MST version came out to donate, but I suppose there’s no harm in giving now. Just don’t forget about that RunOnResumeUserInterface registry event.  ;)

Just out of curiosity, Kajee, how many of your other 1751 posts are as unhelpful as the last 3?



Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: kaajee on 15 December 2008, 17:34:47
..................

Just out of curiosity, Kajee, how many of your other 1751 posts are as unhelpful as the last 3?



I really have no idea, but be my guest and read them, please report back how many you think were helpful.......... :P


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Cafe.Racer on 16 December 2008, 23:44:05
The 81.000 downloads until now turned into 60 donations.

Now 61


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Sparky on 10 January 2009, 12:12:09
The 81.000 downloads until now turned into 60 donations.

Now 61

Make that 62, but as an authorised Windows 7 user, it would be nice if this functionality would work - this is the first time I've needed to use the software.

TP


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: steelbytes on 27 January 2009, 11:06:40
I've found that 0.9.094 on Windows 7 doesn't work for me on windows 7.  it won't run at all (no error, just nothing).

0.9.091 does work for me, but I have a problem with that ver (not yet sure if it's win7 or mst fault), in that the setting in MC "start MC at windows startup" get unselected freuqnetly.  strange.  have tried various settings in MST (restart MC, don't restart MC, etc), but no difference.


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: .Nico on 27 January 2009, 11:50:13
I've found that 0.9.094 on Windows 7 doesn't work for me on windows 7.  it won't run at all (no error, just nothing).

Are you sure it's not under the 'hidden icons' (small arrow up, on the system tray)?

.Nico


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: steelbytes on 27 January 2009, 14:26:02
> Are you sure it's not under the 'hidden icons' (small arrow up, on the system

yes.  1.  I turned that new 'feature' off.  2.  it doesn't show up in taskmgr.


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Neil__C on 1 February 2009, 11:14:30
Quote
Make that 62, but as an authorised Windows 7 user, it would be nice if this functionality would work - this is the first time I've needed to use the software.

TP

63 now - could really use Windows 7 support.

Regards


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: MCE_user on 1 February 2009, 14:55:20
I've made just Donation # 64. I've used this MST Tool several years now and it fixed my Standby issues (first Windows XP MCE 2005, then Vista, now Windows 7). Keep up the good work (that Microsoft should have done in the first place... ) Herman!

Since I'm using Windows 7 beta now (and use MST 0.9.091) support for Windows 7 would be really appriciated.


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: waltblanch on 4 February 2009, 18:32:11
I'm new at this, but impressed.  Made donation #65.  Using the 09091 version.  We definitely would appreciate Win 7 full support.

 :biggrin:


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: bartsidee on 14 February 2009, 16:38:50
#66 here! Keep up the good work herman! hoping on a windows 7 release soon!


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Neil__C on 6 March 2009, 20:29:09
How about a Windows 7 modified version just for those who have donated? I'd really love to use full functionality in Win 7.

Regards


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 14 March 2009, 08:48:40
Thanks for showing your appreciation.

I have made Windows 7 enabled versions of MST and LEDSdriver. No Windows 7 specific features yet, just removed the block.

Unfortunately I did not have the time to fully test them yet (my main HTPC is still running Vista).

Since the latest builds of W7 are very usable for the daring among us I do no longer want to keep them from you:

     ledsdriver09018.exe (removed, there is a newer version on the SlickSolutions website (http://slicksolutions.eu/ledsdriver.shtml).

     mst09095.exe (removed it, a new version can be found further in the thread)

Pleas let me know how well they do.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: chakotay2 on 26 March 2009, 18:12:29
I tried the windows 7 version.  Initially I wasn't able to open the configuration from the task bar, I had to go into program files and run as administrator.  After that it ran just fine.

Although the program seems to be running, it doesn't seem to do anything to put my computer into sleep mode.  I have it to go into S3 but doesn't seem to ever put the computer to sleep... Maybe something I am doing?

If I have the MCE Standby tool pulled up (vs running in background) it works fine... but when it's running in the taskbar it won't shut down the computer.  I am guessing this has something to do with the fact that when I do open the config from the taskbar it asks me "do you want to allow the following unsigned program to...blah blah blah"  The User account control features are probably preventing it from working completely.  Just my guess though.


Also, even though I have it set to start media center always, it won't.  Even on reboot Media center used to start, now it won't.

Anyway, this is just what I am experiencing... could totally be just my system or setup.

Thanks!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: fattim on 28 March 2009, 12:33:39
I too can't get W7 to go to S3.  I have noticed that the Last User Input counter under the IDLE never changes from Zero - The Media Centre counter works OK but the LUI is always zero.  My W7 media install is pretty well finished except for this power issue, so any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

 


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Borri on 29 March 2009, 19:58:43
I still use Vista but read about Windows 7 in the new C'T-magazine and there is short passage about the energy configuration in Windows 7. It says and I quote:

There is a new tool in Windows 7, called Power Config, which helps to configurate your computer as energy efficient as possible and helps to track down problems. Start the Command Prompt as Administrator type the command: powercfg /energy The program will monitor your computer for a minute and produces a HTML-page with info. This will show which hardware refreign the PC from going to S3-mode or which energy-settings are more efficient.

Maybe you all already know this or maybe it won't help but I thought I had to share this.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: chakotay2 on 30 March 2009, 11:24:41
Results posted for troubleshooting / assistance

Power Efficiency Diagnostics Report
Computer Name HAL-MEDIA
Scan Time 2009-03-30T09:19:55Z
Scan Duration 60 seconds 
System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Product Name EP45-UD3P
BIOS Date 02/24/2009
BIOS Version F8
OS Build 7057
Platform Role PlatformRoleDesktop
Plugged In true
Process Count 55
Thread Count 776
Report GUID {4a8c68fb-05a9-44b8-88f7-3ce82ab2f5de} 

Analysis Results
Errors
Power Policy:Power Plan Personality is High Performance (Plugged In)
The current power plan personality is High Performance when the system is plugged in.
Power Policy:Minimum processor performance state is 100% (Plugged In)
The processor is not configured to automatically reduce power consumption based on activity.
Power Policy:USB Selective Suspend is disabled (Plugged In)
The current power policy has globally disabled USB selective suspend.
Power Policy:PCI Express ASPM is disabled (Plugged In)
The current power policy for PCI Express Active State Power Management (ASPM) is configured to Off.
System Availability Requests:System Required Request
A kernel component has made a request to prevent the system from automatically entering sleep.
USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 2
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A36
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3C
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A3C
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A37
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A39
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 2
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A39
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A38
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A38
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A34
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3A
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A3A
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A35
Port Path 

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Composite Device
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_05AF&PID_3062
Port Path 2

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name eHome Infrared Receiver (USBCIR)
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_0471&PID_0815
Port Path 1

CPU Utilization:Processor utilization is high
The average processor utilization during the trace was high. The system will consume less power when the average processor utilization is very low. Review processor utilization for individual processes to determine which applications and services contribute the most to total processor utilization.
Average Utilization (%) 34.55

Platform Power Management Capabilities:PCI Express Active-State Power Management (ASPM) Disabled
PCI Express Active-State Power Management (ASPM) has been disabled due to a known incompatibility with the hardware in this computer.
Warnings
Platform Timer Resolution:Platform Timer Resolution
The default platform timer resolution is 15.6ms (15625000ns) and should be used whenever the system is idle. If the timer resolution is increased, processor power management technologies may not be effective. The timer resolution may be increased due to multimedia playback or graphical animations.
Current Timer Resolution (100ns units) 100000
Maximum Timer Period (100ns units) 156001

Platform Timer Resolution:Outstanding Timer Request
A program or service has requested a timer resolution smaller than the platform maximum timer resolution.
Requested Period 100000
Requesting Process ID 3780
Requesting Process Path \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe

Power Policy:Display timeout is long (Plugged In)
The display is configured to turn off after longer than 10 minutes.
Timeout (seconds) 10800

Power Policy:Sleep timeout is long (Plugged In)
The computer is configured to automatically sleep after longer than 30 minutes.
Timeout (seconds) 10800

Power Policy:802.11 Radio Power Policy is Maximum Performance (Plugged In)
The current power policy for 802.11-compatible wireless network adapters is not configured to use low-power modes.
CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name ehrecvr.exe
PID 3780
Average Utilization (%) 17.77
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 8.94
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 2.48
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\sbe.dll 1.91

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name System
PID 4
Average Utilization (%) 7.50
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\halmacpi.dll 2.94
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 2.75
\SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\volsnap.sys 1.05

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name SearchIndexer.exe
PID 3464
Average Utilization (%) 3.37
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\esent.dll 1.08
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\mssrch.dll 0.47
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 0.41

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name SearchProtocolHost.exe
PID 4804
Average Utilization (%) 2.80
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 0.69
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 0.43
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\shell32.dll 0.26

CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization.
This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace.
Process Name lsass.exe
PID 524
Average Utilization (%) 1.37
Module  Average Module Utilization (%) 
\SystemRoot\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe 0.79
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\rpcrt4.dll 0.20
\Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 0.20

Information
Platform Timer Resolution:Timer Request Stack
The stack of modules responsible for the lowest platform timer setting in this process.
Requested Period 100000
Requesting Process ID 3780
Requesting Process Path \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe
Calling Module Stack  \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\winmm.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\Mpeg2Data.ax
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\quartz.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\MSVidCtl.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\kernel32.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\user32.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\ehome\ehrecvr.exe
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\kernel32.dll
 \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll

Power Policy:Active Power Plan
The current power plan in use
Plan Name  OEM High Performance 
Plan GUID {8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c}

Power Policy:Power Plan Personality (Plugged In)
The personality of the current power plan when the system is plugged in.
Personality High Performance 

Power Policy:Video quality (Plugged In)
Enables Windows Media Player to optimize for quality or power savings when playing video.
Quality Mode Optimize for Video Quality 

Battery:Analysis Success
Analysis was successful. No energy efficiency problems were found. No information was returned.
Platform Power Management Capabilities:Supported Sleep States
Sleep states allow the computer to enter low-power modes after a period of inactivity. The S3 sleep state is the default sleep state for Windows platforms. The S3 sleep state consumes only enough power to preserve memory contents and allow the computer to resume working quickly. Very few platforms support the S1 or S2 Sleep states.
S1 Sleep Supported false
S2 Sleep Supported false
S3 Sleep Supported true
S4 Sleep Supported true

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities
Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption.
Group 0
Index 0
Idle (C) State Count 1
Performance (P) State Count 2
Throttle (T) State Count 8

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities
Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption.
Group 0
Index 1
Idle (C) State Count 1
Performance (P) State Count 2
Throttle (T) State Count 8


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Borri on 30 March 2009, 15:25:59
@chakotay2
A kernel component has made a request to prevent the system from automatically entering sleep.
USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 2
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_3A36
Port Path 

It seems like the problem is one of your USB devices or the USB driver. Try disconnecting all USB devices(even your IR-receiver) and enter sleep again. When this works it's one of your devices, if it doesn't it's probably your USB driver or USB-BIOS settings. Did you mark the "Disable selective USB suspend" in the MCE Standby Tool? If you did you were right about MCE Standby Tool doing nothing to put your computer in to sleep.
Did you turn of UAC?


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: chakotay2 on 30 March 2009, 16:23:38
Maybe I will disable UAC first...  it seems to work when running maxmized but not when minimized in the system tray (or whatever the win7 term is)  I hate to disable UAC though... is there another way to give it full access?


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Borri on 30 March 2009, 16:31:21
Strange, I love to disable UAC! If you have a up to date virus-scanner and a good spyware removal tool disabling UAC shouldn't be a problem.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: chakotay2 on 30 March 2009, 22:46:45
Ok, preliminary testing seems like it's working now.

One of the issues I was running into is that in Windows 7 it defaults to manage and wake up using LAN.  I shut that off and lowered UAC to off and it works... I still couldn't get media center to startup on a reboot (I selected it in standby tool and in media center general).  A quick shortcut pasted in startup solved that issue.

I will test like this for a while and see what happens.  Not sure why MCE standby tool is preventing Media Center from starting up on restart w/o putting the shortcut in start programs but I can certainly live with that.

Once I see it's working I probably will turn UAC back on to see if that breaks it... (in an ideal world I wouldn't have messed with two different things at once to get it working (LAN power config and UAC) but I got really tired of messing with it and used a shotgun approach...  Maybe someone else has a different result.

Thanks!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: fattim on 3 April 2009, 13:30:56
Hi,
I have followed the suggestions in this post - my observation that the Idle timer doesn't update isn't a bug - I disabled the UAC, network and all USB - I got the Idle timer to start, when it reached the shutdown time, it went to S3 - MAGIC!  I re-enabled the devices one at a time - I got the network back, UAC and Ehome USB receiver - all OK - add in the USB Keyboard & Mouse (Microsoft Wireless 3000) and the system won't sleep (Idle counter won't start counting) remove the usb Keyb/Mouse and it starts counting and shuts down OK.  I have reported this to M$. I will post their reply.

Thanks

Fattim.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Sparky on 17 April 2009, 18:05:11
Hi Herman,

I've found on Windows 7, that using the version 0.9.095, on the Windows idle tab, its not possible to increase the max idleness allowed from 0%.

Also, on the devices tab, pressing refresh doesn't appear to return a list of usb devices attached.

Thanks
TP


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Sparky on 19 April 2009, 09:18:18
Hi Herman,

sorry, found a problem with your latest beta application - when using Windows 7 Media Center, and the application is running, but no user input is being performed, the counter for Media Center remains at 0:00, whereas the user input is being correctly reported - unfortunately this means, that if MC is running when then pc resumes, it never goes back to sleep  Shocked

Let me know if you would like a log file uploading to show this problem?

Thanks
Tony


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Sparky on 26 April 2009, 15:50:39
Hi Herman,

I've noticed recently, that when the pc is already resumed, say for a recording, mst blanker is running, and I can't come out of it - the only method I've got of being able to get back to my desktop or MC, is to kill mst  ???

Thanks


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 30 April 2009, 01:31:26
Sparky, are you using build 7100 when this happens, or is it an earlier build? I just installed 7100, and this is happening. Everything worked perfectly in build 7000, but now it gets stuck on autoresume. It detects a user input, but doesn't respond to it at all.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 12 May 2009, 15:47:58
Ok, I will add all my posts into one as it makes things more readable. I use Windows 7 RC1 (Build 7100).

- MST 0.9.095 installs fine on Windows 7
- The tool does not start eHome, it doesn't on system boot, nor does it after a resume. It does stop it on going into standby.
- There seems to be a small error in the interface which caused some confusion for me:

I use MST standby tool as in the background there is a program which will always prevent Windows from entering Idle.
So in MST 0.9.095 I selected "Ignore applications that prevent suspend" as I wanted MST to ignore this thing in the background. However, I need to have this DEselected and all works fine. Perhaps it should be worded "Do NOT ignore apps that prevent suspend"?

- The tool detects a recording is running, but it sometimes doesn't detect when it is finished and so does not go back into standby. The Idle tab always shows "1 recording" even after changing channels a bit. When I try starting and stopping a new recording, it shows "2 recordings" while busy.
- When set to reboot once per day, for me it reboots on every auto-resume.
- When TotalMediaTheatre is running (using it's MediaCenter integration), MST will also standby the HTPC. Though this may be understandable since it's not actually MediaCenter that's busy, this didn't seem to happen under Vista.

For those that, like me, need the start of Media Center to be delayed a little bit, I am using a workaround to do this, since you can't delay it through MST  because of point 2 above. I have written a batchfile "start.bat" and put the following in:
Code:
choice /c:yn /t 10 /d y
%windir%\ehome\ehshell.exe

Put the start.bat in your C:\WINDOWS folder (or where your main Windows folder is).

Using the method described here: http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,3717.0.html (http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,3717.0.html) add start.bat to run on a resume. The names are slightly different in 0.9.095, put them in the RunOnAutoResume and RunOnUserResume. This will delay the MediaCenter start by 10 seconds. If you want more or less, change the /t 10 in the code abote to /t xx where xx is the seconds you want to delay for.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: grahamr on 12 May 2009, 17:17:54
I haven't tried 095 on my Windows 7 RC yet but I did want to bring up a point made of the start of this thread.

I found this software and it saved me plenty of time in configuring my media centre pc. The software worked as expected and once I was happy it worked I donated. This is specifically because I always try to support software development, especially with software that lets you decide how much something is worth.

I find that no-one supports this philosophy better than donationcoder.com, but I'm glad you want to continue supporting Win7 and that I could help with that.

Graham R


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 13 May 2009, 12:12:47
Update on previous: The auto-reboot problem seems to have solved itself.... Recordings now work about half the time.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 13 May 2009, 12:37:33
First thanks for the donations, it’s good to see you appreciate MST this much (it’s a pity it’s still needed for a lot of you, even on W7).

Also thanks for all the feedback; this is very important for the further development. Although I do not respond to each and every posting I read them all and store anything of value in my bug tracking database. It’s just a matter of not having that much spare time.

I guess 0.9.095 was a bit too much of a quickie; I introduced a few serious bugs.
The devices list got broken, Windows Vista was detected as XP, the new “Ignore applications…” worked the opposite way…. Sorry for that.

Other parts of MST that no longer work under Windows 7, like (re)starting ehome and setting the ‘Maximum idleness allowed’ are caused by bugs (or at least changes) in this new OS. Any true bugs I run into will be reported to Microsoft, hopefully things get fixed before RTM.

Since last week I am running Windows 7 on my main HTPC (and I really like it!). This of course speeds up the development of the Windows 7 support.

I think I have the major issues covered to get MST running on Windows 7 by now. If nothing comes up during testing I will release 0.9.096 soon.

@Selcal
Since you seem to test and report very thoroughly would you like to pre-test the version before I drop it here?

Herman


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: grahamr on 13 May 2009, 17:34:18
Quote
First thanks for the donations, it’s good to see you appreciate MST this much (it’s a pity it’s still needed for a lot of you, even on W7).

I don't record on my media centre so I actually use your software to force a hybrid S3 state and never use away mode. So Win7 is probably doing what it is supposed to, just not what I want.

G


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: motocrossmann on 16 May 2009, 06:55:27
Just made a donation for the efforts on Win7.   I've always loved the tool!!!

gcl5080-XXXXXX at yahoo!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 18 May 2009, 01:20:40
Applying for pre beta testing too, I can and will give you usefull feedback.

Have a full dedicated media center pc, running windows 7. With original Microsoft MCE Remote.

Keep up the good work Herman!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 18 May 2009, 12:43:17
The new beta performed well this weekend, so here it is:

mst09096.exe (Check further this thread since a new version is released)

Have fun with it and please report your findings.

Herman


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: mgroenouwe on 18 May 2009, 16:13:48
I'm running version 0.096 now, but my TV doesn't wake up at resume.
The option in the tab "Debug" is checked, but it's seems not to work.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: scottharris on 19 May 2009, 09:15:19
been testing .096 today on w7.

if watching livetv and press power button (to sleep), it works.
if watching livetv and recording also, press power button,  enters away mode (ie turns off audio and screen),  but when recording finishes it does not enter sleep.

maximum idleness setting still stuck at 0%


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: remulus on 20 May 2009, 14:06:58
Helaas is het zo dat na het uit stand-by komen van windows 7 mijn afstandsbediening niet meer werkt. ik moet hem dan eerst opnieuw uit- en inpluggen. is dit op te lossen?

modedit: Was het je niet opgevallen dat er wel heel veel posts in het Engels waren in dit (English) topic?

Even een bijpassend NL topic vinden of een nieuwe openen ajb............


When resuming from stand-by my remote doesn't work anymore. I have to unplug it and plug it in again to get it working.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Sparky on 21 May 2009, 11:12:50
Hi Herman,

thanks for keeping updating the software... and glad to hear you like Windows 7.

Can you test something for me - when the pc has resumed from sleep (S3), and is currently recording programs, when you then try using the remote to bring back the display, I have a problem with MST Blanker, in that it never closes down - i have to kill it via task manager, then the desktop will return.

Are there any settings that I should set to resolve this?

Thanks
Sparky


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 21 May 2009, 14:22:01
Hi Herman,

thanks for keeping updating the software... and glad to hear you like Windows 7.

Can you test something for me - when the pc has resumed from sleep (S3), and is currently recording programs, when you then try using the remote to bring back the display, I have a problem with MST Blanker, in that it never closes down - i have to kill it via task manager, then the desktop will return.

Are there any settings that I should set to resolve this?

Thanks
Sparky

I am experiencing the same program as Sparky. It seems that the power broadcast message that is supposed to appear when a user does something does not. To be more specific, if the computer resumes for an automatic task, and then you try moving the mouse to bring it completely back from standby, the MST Blanker will not exit, it does not receive a power broadcast.

Sparky, I have temporarily reduced the impact of the problem by going into the registry and disabling the MST Blanker. that way, I don't have to reset the computer- I only have to press the green button to get back into Media Center.

(I'm using W7 RC, with version 0.95... I'll change to 0.96 today and see if theres any difference)


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Sparky on 21 May 2009, 15:24:06
Hi makryger,

can you tell me whereabouts I can do the same, I don't seem to be able to find anything related to mst blanker.exe in my registry  :cry:

thanks
Sparky


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 21 May 2009, 18:59:33
Hi makryger,

can you tell me whereabouts I can do the same, I don't seem to be able to find anything related to mst blanker.exe in my registry  :cry:

thanks
Sparky

HKLM/SOFTWARE/Herman Van Eijk/MceStandbyTool

Change key BlankScreen to 0


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Sparky on 21 May 2009, 19:24:35
Thanks, much appreciated  :thumbsup:


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 21 May 2009, 19:32:15
Hi Herman, glad to see you're still working on this! I tried out version .096. The list of devices is working properly now, which is great. That was one problem I was having.

The two other problems I experienced in Version 0.095 are still present in 0.96. These were not issues for me in Build 7000, but have become problems in Build 7100. I may try reinstalling the OS to see if it was just a one-time problem.

1) Even though User input is detected, PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND is not coming up, after an automatic resume. This results in the blanker from staying put, and ehome not starting at all.

2) USB Devices seem to be shutting down when resumed for automatic tasks. I haven't tried every combination of USB tweaks in MST, so I'll keep experimenting.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 22 May 2009, 09:57:34
Hi Herman, glad to see you're still working on this! I tried out version .096. The list of devices is working properly now, which is great. That was one problem I was having.

The two other problems I experienced in Version 0.095 are still present in 0.96. These were not issues for me in Build 7000, but have become problems in Build 7100. I may try reinstalling the OS to see if it was just a one-time problem.

1) Even though User input is detected, PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND is not coming up, after an automatic resume. This results in the blanker from staying put, and ehome not starting at all.

2) USB Devices seem to be shutting down when resumed for automatic tasks. I haven't tried every combination of USB tweaks in MST, so I'll keep experimenting.

For testing I always use the blanker value of 7, this makes it grey and transparant. That way I can see its active and if something is blocking it.

I am not able to reproduce issue 1. Could you please send me a log with some comment when things happen and your settings (or a export of the MCE Standby Tool registry key).


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Cafe.Racer on 22 May 2009, 12:53:13
96 working much better for me, although I haven't tested user resume after an automatic resume, I have tested it setting smething to record then taking it in and out of away mode - works fine for me (TV Pack).

I had hoped that with something recording and me pressing suspend, I could have RunOnUserSuspend run, but it doesn't.  Looking in the MSTLog, I see Monitor on and off entries and away mode entries  could we have a reg entry to call something on one of those, please...



Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 22 May 2009, 12:57:59
Using v0.096 a few days now, but didn't run up to anything yet.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 22 May 2009, 17:03:56
My log:
                               ...
Fri 22 May 2009 09:22:32.014 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for automatic task)
Fri 22 May 2009 09:22:36.351 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (4025ms)
Fri 22 May 2009 09:22:36.476 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Fri 22 May 2009 09:23:32.230 - AwakeState: AS_NON_USER
Fri 22 May 2009 09:28:02.968 - Number of active recordings: 1
Fri 22 May 2009 09:32:37.279 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Fri 22 May 2009 09:52:38.120 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Fri 22 May 2009 09:52:38.354 - User input detected (95309934)


In this log, the monitor power was off until 9:52. I tried pressing a button that was "User input detected" but nothing was recorded in the log. I also opened media center, and it did not report that media center had started.

The settings were all the default settings- it was a clean copy of V 0.95 (and then uninstalled, and reinstalled as V0.96.)


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 23 May 2009, 13:14:34
When I schedule a recording, and put the computer in suspend mode, de recording is working fine, and the pc goes to automaticly suspend afterwards.
Then I can wake up the pc manually but the video output does not work.

I've got UltraVNC installed cuz I do not have a keyboard and mouse connected to the PC. When I take over the pc remotely I can see that ehome did start up nicely. The screen resolution is on 1024x768.

Then need to do a reboot of the machine, and everything works well again.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 23 May 2009, 13:30:00
is your graphic card nvidia? try one of the nvidia gpu fixes available in mst.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 23 May 2009, 13:44:13
Indeed NVidia 9400 onboard, i'm testing atm.

----

It worked, awesome.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: ed-- on 23 May 2009, 18:11:09
Hmmm ... have been trying all day to get my system to sleep, and as you pointed out, it's the network driver preventing the system to go to sleep ...

When I disable it the problem seems solved, but I need a network driver of course. The Network driver is a realtek on board driver ... I tried downloading different drivers and playing with the setting in the driver control panel: no luck :(

Next I tried to install another network card (unfortunatly the one I have is also a realtek, but an older 100Mbps model), so I installed that one and disabled the onboard realtek Gbps NIC, stil the same problem :(

Anyone have any ideas left ? The same NIC in Windows Vista never gave me trouble :(


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 23 May 2009, 19:18:30
Hmmm ... have been trying all day to get my system to sleep, and as you pointed out, it's the network driver preventing the system to go to sleep ...

When I disable it the problem seems solved, but I need a network driver of course. The Network driver is a realtek on board driver ... I tried downloading different drivers and playing with the setting in the driver control panel: no luck :(

Next I tried to install another network card (unfortunatly the one I have is also a realtek, but an older 100Mbps model), so I installed that one and disabled the onboard realtek Gbps NIC, stil the same problem :(

Anyone have any ideas left ? The same NIC in Windows Vista never gave me trouble :(

There should be a tab in the MST program that lists all of the USB devices that can wake up the computer. Un-check the network driver. That way, you can still use the driver, but it won't wake up your computer.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 24 May 2009, 11:14:11
Hmmm ... have been trying all day to get my system to sleep, and as you pointed out, it's the network driver preventing the system to go to sleep ...

When I disable it the problem seems solved, but I need a network driver of course. The Network driver is a realtek on board driver ... I tried downloading different drivers and playing with the setting in the driver control panel: no luck :(

Next I tried to install another network card (unfortunatly the one I have is also a realtek, but an older 100Mbps model), so I installed that one and disabled the onboard realtek Gbps NIC, stil the same problem :(

Anyone have any ideas left ? The same NIC in Windows Vista never gave me trouble :(

Do you have the tab power management on your device/nic in the device manager. I have this option: "Allow the device to wake the computer."

Indeed NVidia 9400 onboard, i'm testing atm.
----
It worked, awesome.

My machine is doing this again. I noticed that de Monitor in the devicelist dissapeared. So I don't have any display output. I've allready tried the Nvidia-stand-by fixes in the MST standby tool.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: ed-- on 24 May 2009, 12:56:59
Hmmm ... have been trying all day to get my system to sleep, and as you pointed out, it's the network driver preventing the system to go to sleep ...

When I disable it the problem seems solved, but I need a network driver of course. The Network driver is a realtek on board driver ... I tried downloading different drivers and playing with the setting in the driver control panel: no luck :(

Next I tried to install another network card (unfortunatly the one I have is also a realtek, but an older 100Mbps model), so I installed that one and disabled the onboard realtek Gbps NIC, stil the same problem :(

Anyone have any ideas left ? The same NIC in Windows Vista never gave me trouble :(

Do you have the tab power management on your device/nic in the device manager. I have this option: "Allow the device to wake the computer."

Indeed NVidia 9400 onboard, i'm testing atm.
----
It worked, awesome.

My machine is doing this again. I noticed that de Monitor in the devicelist dissapeared. So I don't have any display output. I've allready tried the Nvidia-stand-by fixes in the MST standby tool.

Still nothing, even when I disable the WOL capabilities on the card :( Interesting is that I rebooted in vista and installed the latest version of mst it also tells me a program is blocking the sleep mode, though it does work on vista !


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 27 May 2009, 16:56:48
--Hi Herman,

Sorry I was away for so long -- couldn't help out with testing. However, I've been toying with 096 today and I see you didn't nee my testing help at all :).

It's running exactly as it should, have had no more problems here. eHome start/stops work fine, auto reboots, tickboxes, everything is as it should. I'll be around for the next few days to keep forcing it.

An update on the problem with the recording remaining at 1, in case someone else has it. I've found that this isn't actually caused by MST, it's a problem with Windows 7. At the moment, when eHome cancels a recording because of no TV signal (I get that sometimes because my tuner doesn't wake up quickly enough), it doesn't cancel it's enumeration. In other words, eHome keeps reporting it's recording the channel, even though it's not. Nothing MST could do about that; I've forwarded what I've found to MS.

Some 'help' for wuwa...
Quote
Indeed NVidia 9400 onboard, i'm testing atm.
----
It worked, awesome.


My machine is doing this again. I noticed that de Monitor in the devicelist dissapeared. So I don't have any display output. I've allready tried the Nvidia-stand-by fixes in the MST standby tool.

I'm guessing we have the same board or at least chipset. The problem here is that under Windows 7 the system uses PNP to detect your monitor (TV) when it goes into standby, and when it wakes up again. If the TV's not switched on during both powerdown and powerup, you can hear the "PNP disconnect" sound as Windows disconnects the monitor driver. It then falls back to 1024x768 resolution as it 'doesn't know' what screen you have. In Vista this can happen too but you can force the monitor to 1080p flatpanel (or whatever you have). Doing this in Windows7 doesn't have any result. What we need really is a non PNP monitor driver. I'm still working on this one. But you should be fine as long as you wait until the PC has fully gone into standby before switching the TV off, and then switch the TV on before you wake the PC up again. Let me know if that helps.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 27 May 2009, 19:43:45
Some 'help' for wuwa...
Quote
Indeed NVidia 9400 onboard, i'm testing atm.
----
It worked, awesome.


My machine is doing this again. I noticed that de Monitor in the devicelist dissapeared. So I don't have any display output. I've allready tried the Nvidia-stand-by fixes in the MST standby tool.

I'm guessing we have the same board or at least chipset. The problem here is that under Windows 7 the system uses PNP to detect your monitor (TV) when it goes into standby, and when it wakes up again. If the TV's not switched on during both powerdown and powerup, you can hear the "PNP disconnect" sound as Windows disconnects the monitor driver. It then falls back to 1024x768 resolution as it 'doesn't know' what screen you have. In Vista this can happen too but you can force the monitor to 1080p flatpanel (or whatever you have). Doing this in Windows7 doesn't have any result. What we need really is a non PNP monitor driver. I'm still working on this one. But you should be fine as long as you wait until the PC has fully gone into standby before switching the TV off, and then switch the TV on before you wake the PC up again. Let me know if that helps.

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H

Great answer, what you wrote describes exactly my problem. I can't hear the 'disconnect sound' you're telling about, cuz the audio is over HDMI. The sound is there before my builtin-speakers are up and running :P. I'll test this out to watch the sound mixer visualizations during waking up the TV (When watching remote ultravnc).
The device manager shows: Generic PnP Monitor, Under: Monitors (Default Windows 7 Driver.) When I look at the Nvidia control panel, it recognized the monitor as a Samsung display.

I'm wanted to update the bios, but cuz of you're answer I'm not going to anymore :happy: unnecessary risk. I'll let you know my results.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 28 May 2009, 16:54:20
Good, let me know how it goes.

As for the MST tool, I only have one issue since 096. When the system goes into auto standby (timeout, or update or recording finished), I cannot wake it with the remote. If I've put it to sleep with the remote, it wakes fine. I wouldn't normally attribute this to MST but it's only started happening since I installed 096. The device is checked to allow waking from standby. Not sure what this could be?


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 29 May 2009, 14:11:14
I have one more issue. And I can't for the life of me remember whether this is only recent, or whether I tried it before.

Anyway, now, when I set any delay to restart eHome, eHome doesn't start. The log shows a timeout:
Code:
vr 29 mei 2009 13:42:45.384 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
vr 29 mei 2009 13:42:45.581 - PBT_APMSUSPEND (Suspend from user interaction)
vr 29 mei 2009 13:42:45.582 - eHome is running, closing by sending terminate signal (Handle=001502A6 ProcessId=00001048)
vr 29 mei 2009 13:42:45.798 - Terminate signal send, result=0
vr 29 mei 2009 13:42:46.502 - Close request successfully finished (921ms)
vr 29 mei 2009 13:42:46.509 - Delaying suspend for 3000 milliseconds.
vr 29 mei 2009 13:42:49.510 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (3932ms)
                              ...
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:10.948 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:11.068 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (125ms)
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:11.073 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:11.073 - Resuming userinterface
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:11.073 - eHome ResumeStart()
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:11.073 - Starting Tray Applet
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:11.073 - C:\Windows\eHome\ehTray.exe
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:56.316 - Starting Tray Applet failed (Timeout)
vr 29 mei 2009 13:43:56.317 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (45240ms)

Not sure why this is. I have to set the startup delay to 0 to prevent this. A batchfile that I run at resume now initiates a delay, and that works fine. Can I just verify with you that the runatresume scripts run as admin? (so services are stopped/started)? I think they do but it's hard to verify.

Also do you inted to add some of the options in the registry such as restarting Recvr and Sched service? They are useful features, perhaps for an "Advanced" tab?

Let me know if you need me to test something!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: grunger on 29 May 2009, 19:56:02
On the last 2 builds (7127 and 7137) I have tried Windows no longer sleeps by itself.
MST reports last user input as 0:0:00 - never changes....
Also the screensaver does not kick in (I tried enabling it as a test..)
Can't see whats stopping it!

Pretty small install,
7MC
MST
PowerDVD9
Nvidia drivers
AVG 8.5
Shark007 Codec pack

Great tool :)


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: grunger on 30 May 2009, 09:00:30
Fixed the non-sleeping no screensaver problem

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/911895

I'd forgotten about that KB


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 1 June 2009, 00:48:09
Hey Herman,

I know this isn't technically supported, but in trying to use Build 7127 of Windows 7, I receive an error when trying to start MST "Invalid Data Type: AutoAdminLogon". Do you know what a valid data type would be so I can put it in myself?

Thanks!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 1 June 2009, 02:49:05
Some answers/solutions:
1) They have indeed changed AutoAdminLogon in W7 Build 7127. It is now a REG_DWORD instead of a REG_SZ. Herman, you may want to add a check for that. I've temporarily changed it back to the string value rather than the dword, and it doesn't seem to break anything, so I'm ok with respect to that for now.

2) A potential solution to those whose usb devices stop working on resume. Use devcon.exe (download from microsoft) to restart the usbhub on resume. The command line would be devcon restart HARDWAREID

3) A potential way for Herman to fix the mst blanker problem: as I mentioned, the PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND message is not getting through for reasons that I cannot fathom. However, MST is still picking up a "user input detected" signal. Could you please add an option "Treat 'User Input Detected' Message as PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND" I think this would fix the problem.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 1 June 2009, 16:33:33
Some answers/solutions:
1) They have indeed changed AutoAdminLogon in W7 Build 7127. It is now a REG_DWORD instead of a REG_SZ. Herman, you may want to add a check for that. I've temporarily changed it back to the string value rather than the dword, and it doesn't seem to break anything, so I'm ok with respect to that for now.

2) A potential solution to those whose usb devices stop working on resume. Use devcon.exe (download from microsoft) to restart the usbhub on resume. The command line would be devcon restart HARDWAREID

3) A potential way for Herman to fix the mst blanker problem: as I mentioned, the PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND message is not getting through for reasons that I cannot fathom. However, MST is still picking up a "user input detected" signal. Could you please add an option "Treat 'User Input Detected' Message as PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND" I think this would fix the problem.

Thanks for the feedback.

I have not been able to spot a missing PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND in my logs, could you please send me a full log and some times when the blanker failed?
On what builds did this happen?

Logs from others that experience blanker issues are welcome as well. Please inlcude the exact date and time it occured, otherwise they are close to useless to me.

At the moment I am working on a more reliable blanker. Ofcourse I will look into the other issues as well.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 1 June 2009, 22:11:24
Thanks for the feedback.

I have not been able to spot a missing PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND in my logs, could you please send me a full log and some times when the blanker failed?
On what builds did this happen?

Logs from others that experience blanker issues are welcome as well. Please inlcude the exact date and time it occured, otherwise they are close to useless to me.

At the moment I am working on a more reliable blanker. Ofcourse I will look into the other issues as well.

Check out post 50 of this thread. That is basically all it has. It resumes automatically from standby for a recording, PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC received. MST Blanker stays on. Then I press a key on my remote, and it is detected "User Input Detected" but no PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND. Thus, the blanker does not disappear, any resume-suspend scripts do not run, and Media Center does not start.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 11 June 2009, 00:28:42
I disabled the "Force reboot once a day" and I don't get any errors anymore that my display output doesn't come up.

So I'm happy now, no forced reboots every day. I do manually restart some times, but thats no big deal.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: FranX78 on 12 June 2009, 23:42:09
Herman,

About donating: Is it possible to donate in another way than Paypal?

Gr Frank


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 13 June 2009, 14:27:02
I disabled the "Force reboot once a day" and I don't get any errors anymore that my display output doesn't come up.

So I'm happy now, no forced reboots every day. I do manually restart some times, but thats no big deal.

If this happens only once per day; try this:
Go to your screen settings, then to the advanced panel, then to the monitor tab. (Control panel -> Appearance and Personalisation -> Display -> Screen Resolution -> Advanced Settings | Monitor tab)
Select Properties. Select Driver tab. Select Update driver. Select Browse my computer for driver software. Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer.
Untick "Show Compatible Hardware'". Then under (standard monitor types) double-click the screen that best describes your TV (ie Generic TV, or Digital Flat Panel with your resolution).

That may help on the rebooting.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 15 June 2009, 18:51:58
I disabled the "Force reboot once a day" and I don't get any errors anymore that my display output doesn't come up.

So I'm happy now, no forced reboots every day. I do manually restart some times, but thats no big deal.

If this happens only once per day; try this:
Go to your screen settings, then to the advanced panel, then to the monitor tab. (Control panel -> Appearance and Personalisation -> Display -> Screen Resolution -> Advanced Settings | Monitor tab)
Select Properties. Select Driver tab. Select Update driver. Select Browse my computer for driver software. Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer.
Untick "Show Compatible Hardware'". Then under (standard monitor types) double-click the screen that best describes your TV (ie Generic TV, or Digital Flat Panel with your resolution).

That may help on the rebooting.

Thanks, I'm trying this one atm. And let you know my results.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 16 June 2009, 12:41:01
Herman,

About donating: Is it possible to donate in another way than Paypal?

Gr Frank

You can always send me a nice bottle of Vodka or a couple of Belgian beers.

Or…

Transfer a small donation to the following bank account:

Bank account (euro):1440.77.809 
Name:   H.J.M. Van Eijk
IBAN:    NL88 RABO 0144 0778 09
BIC:   RABONL2U


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wuwa on 22 June 2009, 00:09:21
I disabled the "Force reboot once a day" and I don't get any errors anymore that my display output doesn't come up.

So I'm happy now, no forced reboots every day. I do manually restart some times, but thats no big deal.

If this happens only once per day; try this:
Go to your screen settings, then to the advanced panel, then to the monitor tab. (Control panel -> Appearance and Personalisation -> Display -> Screen Resolution -> Advanced Settings | Monitor tab)
Select Properties. Select Driver tab. Select Update driver. Select Browse my computer for driver software. Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer.
Untick "Show Compatible Hardware'". Then under (standard monitor types) double-click the screen that best describes your TV (ie Generic TV, or Digital Flat Panel with your resolution).

That may help on the rebooting.

Thanks, I'm trying this one atm. And let you know my results.
That driver tricky thing didn't work for me. But it was a good advice.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 1 July 2009, 15:05:13
Hello Herman! Hope all is well.

Have you made any progress on the issues I mentioned before? I am still an advocate of the "Treat User Input as User Resume" technique for solving the blanker problem. If its easy to code, I would be happy to test it. If you can get this fixed, I'll gladly donate to the project again!

Also, I've got a few things to add to my list of requests. Could you make a reg key for "Run on Away Mode"? I am finding this would be useful if I hit the power button on the remote while something is recording in the background.

~Michael


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Cafe.Racer on 2 July 2009, 11:47:36
Hi,

I think "Run on Away Mode" would do what I wanted, as well.  You know I want to run something that turns the TV and Amp on/off - I think that going into Away Mode would be when the TV and Amp should go off, and coming out of Away Mode should be when they get turned on.  Again, I only need to run a batch file for these two events.

The other possibility, I think, is I notice Monitor On and Monitor Off events in the log - could these be used for the same thing?


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 2 July 2009, 12:44:03
Hello Herman! Hope all is well.

I am fine, thanks.

A little update:

I have fixed not being able to check ForceHCResetOnResume, I need feedback from you people if it still has some function under Windows 7 (it might fix the remote issue some of you are experiencing, I have one positive report so far).

I have improved the general reliability of the blanker.

MST now uses balloon tips to show serious error situations (none when everything is working fine).

The main cause of the sticking in the blanker issue seems to be the system is being kicked in standby while still handling the PBT_APMSUSPEND message.

At the next resume MST will still be handling this message while the new PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC already is being send. These two will be nested and seriously confuse MST.

Officially an application has to return from PBT_APMSUSPEND in 2 seconds max. In practice this can be longer but Windows 7 seems to be less forgiving than Vista was (or the closing of eHome takes longer under Windows 7).

I have been able to reduce the time eHome needs to close properly. This looks promising but still needs some serious testing.

If things go well I hopefully will be able to drop a new version here sometime next week.

I will add the Away mode run options. I have decided not to add new functionality to be able to fully focus on the Windows 7 compatibility but this one takes very little effort.

Michael, I still want your full log to investigate the blanker issue further. There is a fair chance your issue is caused by not fast enough closing of eHome.

Herman



Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Nielson on 3 July 2009, 17:02:21
Hi Herman,

Here's a piece of my logfile when the Blanker error occurred:

vr 03 jul 2009 00:21:39.986 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 00:21:42.015 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 00:21:54.178 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 00:21:56.206 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 00:21:58.542 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:09.387 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:10.401 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:12.463 - PBT_APMSUSPEND (Suspend from user interaction)
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:12.467 - eHome is running, closing by sending terminate signal (Handle=000107DC ProcessId=00001728)
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:15.471 - Terminate signal send, result=0
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:31.515 - Close request timed out
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:31.516 - Unsafe to terminate the eHome process
vr 03 jul 2009 15:51:53.866 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
vr 03 jul 2009 15:51:53.867 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (0ms)
vr 03 jul 2009 15:51:53.868 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
vr 03 jul 2009 15:51:53.868 - Resuming userinterface
vr 03 jul 2009 15:51:53.869 - eHome ResumeStart()
vr 03 jul 2009 15:51:53.870 - Start at / Move to selected page
vr 03 jul 2009 15:52:07.462 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (13588ms)
vr 03 jul 2009 15:52:07.941 - Delaying suspend for 1000 milliseconds.
vr 03 jul 2009 15:52:08.941 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (55796472ms)
                              ...
vr 03 jul 2009 15:52:54.518 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
vr 03 jul 2009 15:52:56.546 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:52:58.575 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:11.753 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:13.783 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:25.951 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:28.999 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:42.180 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:44.205 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:57.383 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:53:59.421 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:12.601 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:14.629 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:27.810 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:29.837 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:42.002 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:45.049 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:57.218 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:54:59.245 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 15:55:11.404 - User input detected (171851294)
vr 03 jul 2009 15:55:11.412 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 15:55:51.003 - ExecutionState: 3
vr 03 jul 2009 15:55:51.004 - SetContinuousThreadExecutionState(ES_SYSTEM_REQUIRED | ES_DISPLAY_REQUIRED)
vr 03 jul 2009 16:07:52.933 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 16:07:54.975 - ExecutionState: 3
vr 03 jul 2009 16:07:57.999 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 16:07:59.012 - ExecutionState: 3
vr 03 jul 2009 16:08:24.364 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 16:08:25.383 - ExecutionState: 3
vr 03 jul 2009 16:09:35.343 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 16:09:36.356 - ExecutionState: 3
vr 03 jul 2009 16:33:40.302 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 16:33:56.535 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
vr 03 jul 2009 16:33:56.538 - SetContinuousThreadExecutionState(0)
vr 03 jul 2009 16:33:56.538 - SetThreadExecutionState(ES_SYSTEM_REQUIRED)
vr 03 jul 2009 16:33:57.539 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 16:34:24.915 - ExecutionState: 1
vr 03 jul 2009 16:34:25.932 - ExecutionState: 0
vr 03 jul 2009 16:35:16.909 - Starting frontend: MCE Standby Tool
vr 03 jul 2009 16:35:16.938 - Initialisation done

Minutes before 16.00u i woke the system with the mce remote. First used Media Center to watch some video's but when i closed the MC shell to do some webbrowsing i noticed the MST Blanker was still active because the screen turned black. Had to kill MST Blanker through taskmanager, but this make my taskbar disappear somehow. After logoff/logon all is well.

Regards,

Niels


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 5 July 2009, 15:08:24
Ah, it did not occur to me that something before the wake up could be causing this too.

Here is a log of some time before the event, and then an automatic resume.
The first entry is me starting the computer on my own.
Entry at 23:37:03.149 is me turning off the computer.
Entry at 07:22:31.952 is an automatic task (record)
I turned on the TV at around 07:56:18.848, there was a black screen.
I moved the mouse around, which is where the User input was detected, and the desktop restored
(I have blanker turned off for now, until this problem can be solved, otherwise it forces me to restart MST)
(There have been times where eHome did not close fast enough. That's why I increased the "delaying suspend" time to 3 s.)



                               ...
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:03.170 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.431 - Executing: C:\Users\HomeTheater\tvon.cmd Flags: 07h
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.774 - ExitCode = 0
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.774 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (3603ms)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.774 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.774 - Resuming userinterface
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.774 - Executing: C:\Users\HomeTheater\tvon.cmd Flags: 07h
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.930 - ExitCode = 0
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.930 - eHome ResumeStart()
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:06.930 - Start at / Move to selected page
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:07.928 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (1155ms)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:08.537 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:34:09.551 - User input detected (3379855)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:35:03.355 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.017 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.149 - PBT_APMSUSPEND (Suspend from user interaction)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.149 - eHome is running, closing by sending terminate signal (Handle=00050210 ProcessId=00000F20)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.299 - Terminate signal send, result=0
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.666 - Close request successfully finished (515ms)
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.682 - Executing: C:\Users\HomeTheater\tvoff.cmd Flags: 07h
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.807 - ExitCode = 0
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:03.807 - Delaying suspend for 3000 milliseconds.
Sat 04 Jul 2009 23:37:06.818 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (3682ms)
                               ...
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:22:31.952 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for automatic task)
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:22:31.952 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (0ms)
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:22:42.108 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:23:32.552 - AwakeState: AS_NON_USER
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:28:04.059 - Number of active recordings: 1
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:32:33.378 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:56:18.848 - User input detected (33510605)
Sun 05 Jul 2009 07:56:18.864 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 7 July 2009, 12:39:46
Nielson

This is clearly a case of eHome not being shut down fast enough.

Code:
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:31.515 - Close request timed out

The next version will probably improve the situation and likely solve this issue completely.

makryger

This seems to be a different situation.
It looks like your remote (driver) doesn't do its job properly.

Are you by any chance running S4 as sleep state?
What type of remote are you using?
Does this also happen when you wake the system by the power-button?



Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: RikP on 9 July 2009, 12:10:15
Hi Herman,

I also experience the remote not working after a suspend (S3).
Please find attached my log...

The strange thing is that i have 10 usb devices before the suspend and also 10 usb devices after the suspend.
But when starting the IRTRANS application after the suspend it give an error that it can't find the device.

Any idea when you will get the new version out?


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 9 July 2009, 16:46:14
Nielson

This is clearly a case of eHome not being shut down fast enough.

Code:
vr 03 jul 2009 00:22:31.515 - Close request timed out

The next version will probably improve the situation and likely solve this issue completely.

makryger

This seems to be a different situation.
It looks like your remote (driver) doesn't do its job properly.

Are you by any chance running S4 as sleep state?
What type of remote are you using?
Does this also happen when you wake the system by the power-button?



You may be right about the driver issue. It's a gyration RF remote. I'm not running S4, just S3. When I press the power button first, the system gets its command correctly. The remote just does not seem to elicit a resume suspend command after waking automatically, even though the mouse and buttons are being pressed.

Maybe I can setup an AutoHotKey code that sends its own button press when I click a certain button on the remote. Maybe that will bypass the driver issue...


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 9 July 2009, 20:58:12
Any idea when you will get the new version out?

Yes, right now!

Here it is: mst09097.exe (http://slicksolutions.eu/cgi-bin/download.cgi?download=mst09097.exe)

It includes all changes as described a few postings back, including the AwayMode run keys.

Herman

(A new version is released here (http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,4989.msg30546.html#msg30546).)


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: RikP on 9 July 2009, 22:01:04
Hey heveijk,

Perfect my remote is working now after a suspend :)
But when i come back from a suspend my tuner can't be found, mediacenter sais it is in use by another program or not responding. (i have a floppydtv tuner).

I did a workaround now by letting MST not stop and start mediacenter ehome. I think something goes wrong there.

But i am very happy with the remote functionality! Thanks!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 10 July 2009, 15:33:56
Hey Herman, after some more testing, it looks like its not just that remote, its other (wired) devices too. It's not like the keyboard and mouse aren't working, windows just isn't sending the resumesuspend command.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: RikP on 12 July 2009, 12:06:34
Hey Herman,

I've been doing some testing and it seems the problem is with the ehrecvr.exe process. When I close this and restart MCE it will work perfect.
So is it possible with this new version the process isn't handled correct?

Rik


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Cafe.Racer on 13 July 2009, 12:40:07
Hi,

AwayMode run keys work well - thank you very much.  My screen remains blank (No Signal) after running my Resume Script.  I will have to play with HDMIOn, I think.

I did end up with several instances of eHome running, somehow, though, and I've had a couple of lock-ups when closing eHome.  I'll testing and report back.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 15 July 2009, 21:46:50
@ Cafe.Racer, RikP

I am able to reproduce the FloppyDTV issue, I guess I am closing eHome a little too rough in version 0.9.097.

This should be fixed in this version: mst09098.exe (http://slicksolutions.eu/cgi-bin/download.cgi?download=mst09098.exe)

EDIT: A newer version can be found here (http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,6420.msg36286.html#msg36286)

It might need a little fine-tuning. I would  like to have some logs of a couple of days from different setups (Windows XP, Vista, 7) to do soo.

@ makryger

What build are you using?

Btw. I recently noticed you the guy from My Channel Logos for 7MC!
Great Job!  :thumbsup: I did not get a chance to try it yet, but I will probably get back to you about it.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 15 July 2009, 23:01:27
@ makryger

What build are you using?

Btw. I recently noticed you the guy from My Channel Logos for 7MC!
Great Job!  :thumbsup: I did not get a chance to try it yet, but I will probably get back to you about it.


I'm currently using build 7232, however the resumefromsuspend issue has been occurring since build 7100, both 32bit and 64bit. (worked fine in 7000.) I'm beginning to think more and more that there's something faulty about my entire setup. I've switched out motherboards and power supply-neither have fixed the issue. I'm probably going to buy some motherboard-approved Ram to replace the crucial ballistix ram I have in it right now... apparently those sticks get bad ratings anyways.

Yep, when I'm not trying to troubleshoot my own machine, I work on My Channel Logos. I think there are some dutch logos floating around the internet made for MCL.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: RikP on 15 July 2009, 23:03:44
Hi Herman,

Jusy tried the new version and i still have the same problem.
After a suspend i get the message the tuner is busy or not available.

When i close down the mediacenter application there are still some ehome processes running. When manually killing them and restarting the mediacenter application it is working agein.

Please find attached the log.

Regards,
Rik

ps. Makryger: here are the dutch logos :)
http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,5245.msg30273.html#msg30273

ps 2. Edited message because in my hurry i did it in dutch  :icon9:


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: tedreal on 17 July 2009, 08:36:26
Hello-i'm new to the forum-
but have been using MST in XPMCE2005 for a long tima and it worked perfectly.

Now I'm trying Windows 7 build 7100 and all is good except for a USB device that I have (and had previously with xp).
It is a Panasonic usb skype adapter which, when the computer is on, interfaces with a cordless phone allowing you to make and receive skype calls via your home phone.

The problem it seems is that this usb adapter is 'talking' to the phone every 10 seconds which MST is picking up as a user input and resetting its contdown timers thus not allowing the computer to go ito s3 standby.

I have tried the latest version posted above and ticked/unticked various boxes with no result.

If I disable the usb device MST works and has no problems doing what it is supposed to.

Is there a solution to this that someone may know.


Thanks

tedreal


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: makryger on 20 July 2009, 06:13:50
Hi Herman,

I don't know what is going on, but now, instead of not getting any RESUMESUSPEND signal, now I am always getting one! (I have no idea what has changed. I did upgrade to the latest version of MST, but I've also been fiddling with my hardware.) Even when its an automatic recording, or automatic guide update, it still gets resumesuspend, which means my tv and audio system all turn on! Kind of scary in the middle of the night...

So is there a way for MST to query what device woke up the computer, and base your decision on that? It's clear that an automatic timer is waking up the computer, yet its still doing the resumesuspend message, and thus treating the wake up as a user is present. The "assume any resume without user activity" does not seem to prevent the scripts from running.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Cafe.Racer on 20 July 2009, 18:16:38
I think that's what I had when I used RESUMESUSPEND at one point - it didn't seem reliably "fired", I assumed it was my setup.

Herman, I have FireDTVs, and other than that first weird occurance after I put 097 on, it's been fine - I have no problems with 097.  I do occasionally get a "USB Device not working" on resume, but it doesn't seem to cause problems.

I will put 098 on and report back.

I put HDMIOn.exe in the IRSS Macro that gets called when AWAYMODERESUME fires, in order to get round the blank screen.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: chakotay2 on 9 August 2009, 12:10:09
Ok, threw a few "euro's" your way.  Thanks for all you do and I hope to see continued development for the Standby Tool!  :specool:


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: H8Red on 10 August 2009, 11:16:14
Hi Herman,

Jusy tried the new version and i still have the same problem.
After a suspend i get the message the tuner is busy or not available.

When i close down the mediacenter application there are still some ehome processes running. When manually killing them and restarting the mediacenter application it is working agein.

Please find attached the log.

Regards,
Rik

ps. Makryger: here are the dutch logos :)
http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,5245.msg30273.html#msg30273

ps 2. Edited message because in my hurry i did it in dutch  :icon9:

Hi
I have a similar problem with my floppydtv, I do not think it i MSt related, but merely a floppy / windows problem.
I opened a ticket with digital everywhere, heres what I wrote them:
"On my previous installation Vista 32Bit with TV pack I had a perfect working installation.
Suspend/resume always working, then after an update, not sure which. I suddenly had to close MCE and restart ehrecvr service in order to view or record tv.
I rolled back in time and the problem went away.
I now have Win7 RTM installed, due to my msdn subscription, and here the problem is right out of the box.
To circumvent the problem I have installed MST Tool, which automatically closes MC and runs a net stop ehrecvr before suspend.
But why is occuring ?
I have a HP laptop with built in dvb-t tuner, running Vista HP, here I also periodically have this problem. Again I circumvent it by using the berfore mentioned MST Tool and net stop command.
Google has always been my friend, but not in this case, maybe you guys have seen this problem before.
When I went to view live TV, a message would be: "the tuner is busy" or "no tuner available"

Does this make any sense to others ?


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Cloggie97 on 11 August 2009, 16:44:33
Hi,

I installed Windows 7 RTM two days ago. After my pc resumes from standby and I try to play music or video or watch tv MediaCenter reports errors.

I have seen the following:
'no tuners available',
or 'video decoder error...'
or just 'video error...',

but now I just get:
or 'audio hardware not available, not responding or speakers not connected',
or 'audio device error, video cannot be displayed because an audio device has not been detected .. '.

So I do not appear to have problems going into standby or resuming from standby, it's just that after resuming from standby nothing really works and I need to reboot my pc to get things working again. I tried running MST 0.9.098, but this did not help. I had Vista running on the same pc very stable for several years. I did not need to use MST on Vista, because standby and resume from standby was working fine on Vista and I thought if it isn't broken don't fix it. Not sure where to start debubugging this on Windows 7 really. Can anybody give any pointers?

An odd thing I noticed is when I set the selected sleep state in MST to S3 (standby) when I resume the display immediately goes into the Windows logon screen and I get the above mentioned problems. However, when I set the selected sleep state in MST to S3+S4 (hybrid state) then when I try to resume using my remote control the computer fans go on and the power light goes on but the display remains blank and it takes another two minutes before the display shows up the BIOS POST screens and then the Resuming Windows screen and then the Windows login screen. When I log in Media Center works ok. So this makes me think when I set the selected sleep state in MST to S3+S4 it either resumed from S4, not S3, or it tried to resume from S3, failed and then resumed from S4 instead. Just to confirm, I thought S3+S4 hybrid sleep was just S3 but additionally with the memory state written to harddisk, so that the system can go into S4 (hibernate) from S3 without having to power up to save the memory state to harddisk first, so that typically when you resume it will be from S3, not S4, right?

But as I'm typing this and I keep putting my system into standby and resuming playing with the selected sleep state in MST I now get additional problems. Things are getting from bad to worse as I type. Now when I try to resume using my remote control from either selected sleep state in MST the computer fans go on and the power light goes on but the display remains blank and it takes another two minutes before the display shows up the BIOS POST screens, but then I get the 'windows did not shut down correctly' screen after which windows starts up normally.

I did just notice this post here about a similar problem with audio hardware not working after resume from standby: http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-support/5305-sleep-function-causes-sound-issues.html. In my case after a resume from standby my audio device has completely disappeared from the Windows device manager. After a reboot it reappears.

I also posted my problem here before: http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/t/77219.aspx.

So I do suspect MST is not going to be able to help me much. I suspect the problem is Windows 7 RTM and / or device drivers. Vista was fine afterall.

My hardware is AOpen i945gtm-vhl motherboard (mobile intel 945 express chipset), intel gma 950 integrated graphics, intel core duo T2600 2X2.16GHz, 2Gb memory, 2 harddisks in striping mode, BlackGold dual dvb-t pci-e tuner card.

Hope anybody can help.

Remco


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: fenschop on 7 September 2009, 21:46:46
After an automatic resume for a scheduled recording MST 98 does not bring the system to standby anymore, unless I give some user input. As a result, the system can stay on all night or day.

The MC idle and user input idle counters are just counting minutes, from the start of the wakeup, but when recording is ended, nothing is happing. When I move the mouse, the user input idle counter gets reset, and then when it reaches the preset value, it goes to standby. I found a workaround: When I force eHome to restart at an automatic resume, through the debug tab, the system goes unattented to standby. Despite the workaround, It still could be a bug.

The problem occurs on W7 7600 RFM. My system uses S4 (as S3 is unsupported).

fenschop.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 8 September 2009, 12:36:39
After an automatic resume for a scheduled recording MST 98 does not bring the system to standby anymore, unless I give some user input. As a result, the system can stay on all night or day.

The MC idle and user input idle counters are just counting minutes, from the start of the wakeup, but when recording is ended, nothing is happing. When I move the mouse, the user input idle counter gets reset, and then when it reaches the preset value, it goes to standby. I found a workaround: When I force eHome to restart at an automatic resume, through the debug tab, the system goes unattented to standby. Despite the workaround, It still could be a bug.

The problem occurs on W7 7600 RFM. My system uses S4 (as S3 is unsupported).

fenschop.

This probably is an S4 issue. S4 has some (inconsistent) limitations that might prevent MST from detecting the current system state accurately.

I will do some testing on this.

Try to enable S3 in the BIOS setup and check for missing device drivers, every recent PC should be able to run S3 which has several benefits over S4. If you prefer S4 for whatever reason try hybrid sleep (S3+S4).


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wongnog on 8 September 2009, 13:52:54
Running Windows 7 RTM x64 at the moment and love it.  Just installed MST 0.9.098 and noticed that the Maximum Allowed Idleness is greyed out -- is this feature going to be enabled in the future?  Also my system seems to be unable to resume from S3 or S3+S4 state.  The system simply hangs, and I have to reboot my system until Windows detects a failed resume and prompts me to delete the resume data and start Windows normally.  I can however got to S4 Hibernate state and resume from that, so for now that's what I'll use.  Any suggestions for what I should try to get S3 or S3+S4 to work?  Thanks


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: murrayhead on 10 September 2009, 22:18:08
Hi Herman,

Cheers for this great tool, resolved all my issues, will make a donation to show my appreciation. One tiny issue though. I have enabled concurrent RDP sessions on the RTM version and when I log via RDP in I get a small error message: CreateFile error (Output). Anything you can do to resolve this? Nothing cricitical but would be nice to get it resolved.

Thanks


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: wongnog on 23 September 2009, 13:48:05
Hi hveijk, great program.  As stated earlier I'm running Windows 7 x64 RTM, but it seems that MST is broken in this release.  Basically the program never detects that one or more programs require the system, so my computer will go into sleep mode despite high CPU usage.  For example, I could be doing video encoding with system idleness down to 40%, but because the "Maximum system idleness" box is greyed out with "n.a.", my system will go to sleep anyway.

Is this a known problem?  Is there a workaround at the moment?  Thanks so much for your time.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: gewoon in de kroeg on 23 September 2009, 19:29:15
Ik wil niet l*llig doen maar dacht dat dit forum als naam "De groene knop" heeft, en niet "The green button".
Geweldig om velen te helpen, begrijp mij niet verkeerd.
Maar in NL posten op een Engelstalige gaat ook niet werken.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: harryd on 23 September 2009, 19:42:10
:[off-topic mode] on:

Ik wil niet l*llig doen maar dacht dat dit forum als naam "De groene knop" heeft, en niet "The green button".
Geweldig om velen te helpen, begrijp mij niet verkeerd.
Maar in NL posten op een Engelstalige gaat ook niet werken.

This is the English lanuage orientated part of the subforum that Herman occupies for the use of communicating about his internationally used (marvelous ;) )tools.
Ofcourse, being part of the Dutch Media Center community initiative "DeGroeneKnop", there also is a Dutch part of the subforum ;)

:[off-topic mode] off:


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 24 September 2009, 12:32:10
wongnog

Unfortunately Microsoft removed the possibility to adjust the maximum allowed idleness from Windows 7. I would love to make this work but I simply cannot.

Not being able to resume properly might be caused by a piece of hardware (it’s driver). Try removing or disabeling devices to isolate the cause.

Try removing the “Ignore applications that prevent suspend” check to make MST respect applications that need the system.

murrayhead

MST should exit directly when run in a RDP. I will look into this.


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: nigelrobson on 24 September 2009, 15:26:42
Thanks  for sharing your findings.

I already knew this, simply because it's 'by design'.

The only reason I did this is creating the possibility of commercializing my tools at some point. I have no serious plans yet, just considering the options.

I have chosen this approach because I didn't think running the current pre-beta versions of Windows 7 for everyday use is a serious option so nobody would be hurt. Another option is to turn it into a time bomb so the tools will at least work until the final of Windows 7 will be released.

...........................................

A new toy every now and then and a little appreciation is what keeps a man going.

So whenever you feel ANY piece of freeware is useful to you consider if it's worth keeping alive by making a small contribution.

Herman



Herman

Bit confused now as I don't seem to be able to load any of the MST versions on Win7 in my media Centre in the living room. Seems to work on my desktop in my study but then I don't leave that on so much so not an issue. But I do see that others are talking of their problems with Win7. I imagined there would be a "hidden" version that was made available to those who made donations as reasonably expected by yourself, but I can't find out how to access the same despite having made a donation. I presume the later beta versions will work on any Win7.

 I do seem to have probs with wakeup and standby in Win7 on my MC so would really appreciate access to the newer tool.

Yours with appreciation

Nigel


Title: Re: MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 24 September 2009, 16:17:42

Bit confused now as I don't seem to be able to load any of the MST versions on Win7. But I do see that others are talking of their problems with Win7. I imagined there would be a "hidden" version that was made available to those who made donations as reasonably expected by yourself, but I can't find out how to access the same despite having made a donation.

I am sorry, there is no top secrect hidden limited edition ;).
You can find the link to the Windows 7 compatible 0.9.098 version here (http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,4989.msg30546.html#msg30546).


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: scoob on 19 October 2009, 19:38:58
any idea why this link is not working ?
 :cry:

regards,
Robin


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 20 October 2009, 20:29:12
any idea why this link is not working ?
 :cry:

It works for me, this link points to the post where you can find the link to the executable (called mst09098.exe).


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Lord Huevo on 23 October 2009, 08:41:06
I donwloaded this tool to check if it helps me solve one small issue I have.

My system (Win 7 Pro 32bit) suspends fine. My (USB wireless) mouse resumes the sytem fine when I move it.
My remote (Harmony One emulating a MCE keyboard) only wakes up the system when I send the "Power Toogle" command.

I'd expect that any keypress would wake up the system (BIOS allows it, MST reports that eHome IR receiver is allowed to wake up the system)

What configuration / setting could I check/mark/unmark to allow any key press to wake up the system? Is the "Vista remote idle fix" intended to solve this kind of problems?

Thanks


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: 2muchtv on 25 October 2009, 21:55:34
Thanks for this great application! I just paypal'd a donation.

I am using 0.9.098 successfully on Windows 7 Home Premium, and the only problem that I am having is related the automatic backups triggered by my Windows Home Server.  The backup starts, and MCE Standby Tool correctly shows "One or more programs requires the system - YES", but the "Time remaining until suspend" continues to countdown.  The PC then suspends when the count reaches zero, before that backup completes.  Since MCE Standby Tool detects that system resources are being used by the WHS connector, is there any way for the application to prevent standby from occuring until after the backup is complete and the PC goes back to completely idle?

Thanks...


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 25 October 2009, 22:09:31
Thanks for this great application! I just paypal'd a donation.

I am using 0.9.098 successfully on Windows 7 Home Premium, and the only problem that I am having is related the automatic backups triggered by my Windows Home Server.  The backup starts, and MCE Standby Tool correctly shows "One or more programs requires the system - YES", but the "Time remaining until suspend" continues to countdown.  The PC then suspends when the count reaches zero, before that backup completes.  Since MCE Standby Tool detects that system resources are being used by the WHS connector, is there any way for the application to prevent standby from occuring until after the backup is complete and the PC goes back to completely idle?

Thanks...

Thanks for the donation.

For now just remove the "Ignore applications that prevent suspend" check, dedicated WHS support will be added in some future version (don't expect it soon).

Herman


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: kevm14 on 26 October 2009, 22:51:04
Here is my problem.  I wonder if this tool will help me.

Win 7 x64 7600.  It goes in and out of S3 fine by the remote's power button, when I test it.  But after setting the system to 45 minute standby timeout, it seems the problems happen.  Specifically, it seems unwilling to go to sleep.  This leads to a secondary problem which may be related, discovered by my wife  ::)
If you come back to the machine after hours of inactivity, it is awake, as I described.  As a test to duplicate what I think my wife is doing, I turned on the TV, noticed that it was in the Win 7 screensaver, then pressed power anyway.  It went to sleep.  When I pressed power, it woke up and a DVD resumed.  I had audio but a black TV (component video out via an ATI HD4670).  I could see the mouse cursor but no amount of clicking or remote button pressing gave me video.  The DVD continued to play.  Thinking of what my wife would do, I pressed power AGAIN, at which point it tried to go to sleep, but ended up with the power light blinking, but the system still on (S1? invalid state?).  At this point there was nothing to do but force the system to shut down by holding the power button.

What I need to do is turn off the 45 minute S3 timer and do everything I did above, and see if it behaves the same way.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: 2muchtv on 27 October 2009, 01:04:44
Thanks for this great application! I just paypal'd a donation.

I am using 0.9.098 successfully on Windows 7 Home Premium, and the only problem that I am having is related the automatic backups triggered by my Windows Home Server.  The backup starts, and MCE Standby Tool correctly shows "One or more programs requires the system - YES", but the "Time remaining until suspend" continues to countdown.  The PC then suspends when the count reaches zero, before that backup completes.  Since MCE Standby Tool detects that system resources are being used by the WHS connector, is there any way for the application to prevent standby from occuring until after the backup is complete and the PC goes back to completely idle?

Thanks...

Thanks for the donation.

For now just remove the "Ignore applications that prevent suspend" check, dedicated WHS support will be added in some future version (don't expect it soon).

Herman

I removed that check, and in fact the system woke up and successfully completed the backup.  Unfortunately, it never went back to sleep.  I run a couple of other background applications related to the dual displays in my Media Center PC, and I guess that one of those prevented the system from going back into suspend.  Since this PC does not change very frequently (dedicated MCE PC), I think for now I will just do ocassional manual backups and leave the "Ignore applications that prevent suspend" checked.  With that checked, everything worked perfectly except for the automatic backups.  Let me know if you get to a point where you want someone to test the Windows Home Server support.

Thanks...John


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Cafe.Racer on 30 October 2009, 14:44:41
It works for me, this link points to the post where you can find the link to the executable (called mst09098.exe).

I must admit, I find it confusing trying to find the latest version...

@Kevm14 - no, it doesn't work like that, Windows has only ever woken when you press the Power button.  Any key press does not wake it up.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: daJack on 2 November 2009, 11:06:08
Hi!

I'm using your patched version of MST on Windows 7; Acer aspire idea 510. Works great. Keep up the good work!  :specool:

jack

PS: just made a donation


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Luke Vredeveld on 13 November 2009, 12:04:06
Hi there, i've got a problem using win7 and mst 0.9.098.


The pc has no problem to go into s3 suspend. Waking up is a bigger problem. Actually, there are a few problems that occur:

-sometimes i got the error "no tuner available. An other application is using the tuner ....etc"
-sometimes it starts tv but my floppydtv card isn't detected so mce uses the hybrid hauppauge
-sometimes i'm just lef in a black screen with mousepointer and in the bottomleft corner the mce logo.
-sometimes mce just freezes and the system crashes in a black screen. Left with rebooting als only option.

Sometimes I also get the error: 'no graphics driver found'. I upgraded my radeon hd 3200 and that problem seems fine now.

How do I make my pc wake up and start mce with live tv using mst0.9.098?? Which options should I choose? Are those recognizable errors?
I'm very enthousiastic about the tool, but it gives me tons of problems now....  :wacko: My girlfriend is loosing her patience with my HTPC so I hope I can fix this soon, before she throws the whole thing out  :ohmy:


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Luke Vredeveld on 13 November 2009, 14:08:32
Hi Herman, thanks again for your help.

I did the following things to get rid of the problems:
-installed Ati catalyst 9.8 instead of 9.10
-configured mst, that it doesn't stop ehome at suspend
-installed the legacy firewire driver in windows

This actions caused me at first a BSOD  :o, but after a reboot in safemode, it seems to work. I'm going to try this configuration for a few days so it can be tested by the real demanding user: my girlfriend!

Thanks so far for your help. I'll keep you posted.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: day1118 on 17 November 2009, 01:55:47
Hi guys,

I am running the Windows 7 compatible 0.9.098 version, however, the reboot options are all blacked out!
Has anyone else had this issue, or know how I could resolve it?

(Screen dump is included!)

Thanks


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: MJ-bos on 18 November 2009, 19:53:08
Hi there- compliments for a great piece of software that has saved a lot of electricity over the years!

I've upgraded to Win7 and one of my desktops won't behave anymore - it wakes up just under 1 minute after going to sleep.

The last 2 instances in the log were:

Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:19:26.921 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:19:26.929 - PBT_APMSUSPEND (Suspend from user interaction)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:19:26.963 - Delaying suspend for 1000 milliseconds.
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:19:27.964 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (1046ms)
                               ...
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:21.883 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:21.887 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (6849ms)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:21.890 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
                               Reversed resume order
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:22.892 - Resuming userinterface
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:22.893 - RestoreTargets()
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:22.894 - UnBlank(true)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:22.895 - Ehome.IsRunning() == false
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:22.895 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (1014ms)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:24.294 - User input detected (554351799)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:25.444 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:46.251 - Starting frontend: MCE Standby Tool
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:20:46.280 - Initialisation done
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:21:22.213 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:21:35.394 - ExecutionState: 1
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:21:36.408 - ExecutionState: 0
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:21:37.782 - FormClose
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:21:37.795 - MCE Standby Tool/frontend closed.
                               
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:21:45.490 - WM_QUERYENDSESSION
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:21:45.547 - WM_ENDSESSION
                               ---------------------------------------------------
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:31:16.757 - Starting MCE Standby Tool
                               MST Version         : 0.9.098
                               Build               : Jul 15 2009, 21:07:40
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:31:16.759 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:31:16.760 - Initialisation done
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:31:18.621 - User input detected (484429)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:32:17.437 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:32:17.438 - ExecutionState: 1
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:32:21.493 - ExecutionState: 0
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:32:22.506 - ExecutionState: 1
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:32:44.814 - ExecutionState: 0
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:32:57.996 - ExecutionState: 3
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:33:00.027 - ExecutionState: 1
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:33:01.038 - ExecutionState: 0
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:34:26.668 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:34:26.676 - PBT_APMSUSPEND (Suspend from user interaction)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:34:26.697 - Delaying suspend for 1000 milliseconds.
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:34:27.698 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (1030ms)
                               ...
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.404 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.457 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (15ms)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.487 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.488 - Resuming userinterface
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.488 - RestoreTargets()
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.489 - UnBlank(true)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.492 - Ehome.IsRunning() == false
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.492 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (15ms)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:17.599 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:35:18.393 - User input detected (724031)
Wed 18 Nov 2009 13:36:18.222 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP


I can't figure it out - there is something waking it up, and I've fiddled with only allowing the mouse to be the trigger, enable/disable fastr usb resume and selective usb resume... nothing changes.

Any suggestions before I start unplugging USB devices one by one :(

Cheers,
mj


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: MJ-bos on 19 November 2009, 16:59:18
I have figured out which device is the problem - it's my ShuttleProV2 (Countour Designs) - a jog dial that's really useful for audio editing. The device "jogs" windows every 3 seconds and is preventing sleep.

I can leave it unplugged while not using it for the time being.

Is there any thought on adding a feature to MST that could prevent a device from doing this? I realize that's a little Rube Goldberg-esque, but worthwile to ask!

Cheers,
MJ


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: gharris999 on 6 December 2009, 19:08:38
Hello.  I've gotten a report from a MST user who is also using my SrvrPowerCtrl plugin for Squeezebox Server.  The user reports that his Windows 7 Media Center machine will not remain awake after being WOLed.  Squeezebox Server uses the windows kernel SetThreadExecutionState API to keep a machine from going into standby when the server software is streaming audio to a Squeezebox device.

Does MST in any way interfere with or otherwise cause the system to ignore calls to SetThreadExecutionState?  I wouldn't think so, but the symptoms that the user reports are vary mysterious.  I'm not a MST user myself, so I have no knowledge of how your utility works.

Thanks..


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 7 December 2009, 12:32:14
Hello.  I've gotten a report from a MST user who is also using my SrvrPowerCtrl plugin for Squeezebox Server.  The user reports that his Windows 7 Media Center machine will not remain awake after being WOLed.  Squeezebox Server uses the windows kernel SetThreadExecutionState API to keep a machine from going into standby when the server software is streaming audio to a Squeezebox device.

Does MST in any way interfere with or otherwise cause the system to ignore calls to SetThreadExecutionState?  I wouldn't think so, but the symptoms that the user reports are vary mysterious.  I'm not a MST user myself, so I have no knowledge of how your utility works.

Thanks..

When using the latest beta (0.9.098) removing the “Ignore applications that prevent suspend” check will make MST respect the ThreadExecutionState.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Stiggy on 23 December 2009, 17:40:00
I've found that restarting the Windows Media Center Receiver (ehRecvr) service cures a lot of problems when I see 'tuner not available' errors with my Hauppauge Nova-T-500 card.

Would it be possible to incorporate a service restart option into the eHome tab?


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: free30 on 28 December 2009, 04:55:14
Thanks for a great tool, fixing all those problems caused by others.... :happy:

Anyhow wanted to post my experiences.

I'm using Windows 7 64bit Retail.  :blink:

If I do a fresh install of vs 0.9.098 it doesn't work just saying disabled when it should go to sleep.
Yet if I install 0.9.091 it reports as a trojan to Kaspersky, so I turn it off then when I install 0.9.98 it works. :P

I am having to use a .bat file to run devcon to restart DVB card because of DVBLink. Maybe you could add this sort of ability.

But still thanks a bunch


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Nudge on 1 January 2010, 21:39:17
Great App, I have setup on 2 of 3 W7 PC's (older hardware) that were not going to standby correctly.

Only issue I have is that these PC's all share Recorded TV, while watching TV from another PC it will go into standby. Can / could MST monitor the recorded tv folder for use? 

Any suggestions?

Nudge



Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 3 January 2010, 14:20:08
--Hi Herman,

I have a problem now that I have installed W7 final, that I didn't have on the beta W7: MST doesnt do automatic rebooting anymore. The 'reboot' tab shows no reboots (or sometimes one just after I enabled it), and the log doesnt show any attempts at rebooting.

I've tried switching it off, and back on, but nothing seems to help. Any ideas? Let me know if you need anything to troubleshoot with.

And separately; any ideas yet about supporting TMT3 and PDVD so the system doesn't sleep during playback? I'd love to put my sleep timer lower but right now I can't really. Thanks!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 4 January 2010, 12:47:22
Thanks for a great tool, fixing all those problems caused by others.... :happy:

Anyhow wanted to post my experiences.

I'm using Windows 7 64bit Retail.  :blink:

If I do a fresh install of vs 0.9.098 it doesn't work just saying disabled when it should go to sleep.

Can you give me a little more details? "saying disabled" doesn't mean anything to me.

Quote
Yet if I install 0.9.091 it reports as a trojan to Kaspersky, so I turn it off then when I install 0.9.98 it works. :P

I am having to use a .bat file to run devcon to restart DVB card because of DVBLink. Maybe you could add this sort of ability.

But still thanks a bunch

The maximum time the system can be held back while entering standby is limited by Windows Vista and even more by Windows 7.
Officially the maximum delay is 2 seconds! Everything longer is not guaranteed.

This is why a devcon script (or something simular) will never be executed reliably when entering standby.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 4 January 2010, 12:48:19
Great App, I have setup on 2 of 3 W7 PC's (older hardware) that were not going to standby correctly.

Only issue I have is that these PC's all share Recorded TV, while watching TV from another PC it will go into standby. Can / could MST monitor the recorded tv folder for use? 

Any suggestions?

Nudge



I will look into this, don't expect it to be in 0.9.099.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 4 January 2010, 12:50:11
--Hi Herman,

I have a problem now that I have installed W7 final, that I didn't have on the beta W7: MST doesnt do automatic rebooting anymore. The 'reboot' tab shows no reboots (or sometimes one just after I enabled it), and the log doesnt show any attempts at rebooting.

I've tried switching it off, and back on, but nothing seems to help. Any ideas? Let me know if you need anything to troubleshoot with.

I soon hope to release 0.9.099 which will be much more reliable under Windows 7 (read "Will have better work-arounds for the Windows bugs).

Quote
And separately; any ideas yet about supporting TMT3 and PDVD so the system doesn't sleep during playback? I'd love to put my sleep timer lower but right now I can't really. Thanks!

They are on the list!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: free30 on 4 January 2010, 23:24:10
"Can you give me a little more details? "saying disabled" doesn't mean anything to me."

'Win Idle' page,  'Time remaining until suspend'.  There is a count down then when it should sleep it just says Disabled where the timer was.

I am still having trouble changing this in a clean install.  Seems my earlier version work around was a one off.


I run devcon on resume, not entering sleep.

Anyhow look forward to 0.9.0.99


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 5 January 2010, 12:35:33
'Win Idle' page,  'Time remaining until suspend'.  There is a count down then when it should sleep it just says Disabled where the timer was.

OK, this page is there mend to debug the idle detection of Windows itself, not to configure it!

Use the power options from the control panel to enable this detection.

The MST idle detection can be configured through the "idle" an "Auto task" tabs.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: geku on 5 January 2010, 17:11:48
Herman,
lot's of compliments for this geat app. I have been using version 91 under vista and it was just perfect. Now I have version 98 under W7 and I have a number of strange behaviours.

1. It seems to mess with my Fire DTV S2 TV card. After waking up the card is reported to be unavailable. Not always and I have not figured out a pattern yet.

2. Very strange:
    - I hit the "Live TV" Button on my remote and the PC goes to sleep.
    - I wake it up again (via power button), press "Live TV" again and Live TV start (reporting, that the card is not available.
  I also had it when pressing EPG or the green button . . .

Regarding the second point, I have attached the log file below:

- I booted at 12:54 and listened to music for some time (media center not started)
- at 16:31:12 I pressed "LiveTV" and PC goes to sleep
- at 16:31:33 I hit the power button to wake the PC again
- not sure if the second "LiveTV" is in this log.

Any Idea, what I'm doing wrong? I have also attached a PDF with my configurations.

Many thanks for your help, Georg

=============================================================================================
                              ---------------------------------------------------
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.181 - Starting MCE Standby Tool
                              MST Version         : 0.9.098
                              Build               : Jul 15 2009, 21:07:40
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.181 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.181 - Initialisation done
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.805 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:34.805 - ExecutionState: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:38.803 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:40.834 - ExecutionState: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:53.290 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:54:58.347 - User input detected (68375)
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:55:16.605 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:56:10.436 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:57:23.397 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:57:51.883 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 12:57:58.034 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:01:02.583 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:02:15.593 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:47:07.781 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:57:10.653 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 13:57:26.242 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 14:00:47.099 - ExecutionState: 3
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.769 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.771 - 'Media Center is running and idle' idle period detected
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.772 - Entering Standby
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.774 - cSuspendInitiator - Resumed
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.874 - cSuspendInitiator - Sleep done
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:12.876 - cSuspendInitiator - EnterStandby()
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:14.426 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:14.433 - ExecutionState: 1
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.141 - PBT_APMSUSPEND (Suspend from user interaction)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.142 - Blank
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.143 - eHome is running, closing by sending terminate signal (Handle=00040578 ProcessId=00001414)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:16.144 - eHome boost successful (8000->0080)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:18.589 - Terminate signal send, result=0
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:19.483 - Close request successfully finished (3338ms)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:19.587 - Delaying suspend for 1000 milliseconds.
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:20.588 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (4446ms)
                              ...
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:33.778 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.567 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (18782ms)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.568 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.582 - Resuming userinterface
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.583 - RestoreTargets()
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.584 - UnBlank(true)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.623 - Ehome.IsRunning() == false
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.624 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (63ms)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.689 - cSuspendInitiator - EnterStandby() done
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:31:52.690 - cSuspendInitiator - Suspend()
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:32:21.704 - User input detected (13110885)
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:32:33.875 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:33:15.472 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:34:29.534 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Di 05 Jan 2010 16:34:42.747 - AwakeState: AS_DESKTOP



Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: cuxbahh on 6 January 2010, 02:35:40
I have 2 problems that in combination are somewhat annoying:
1) When the system wakes up for a recoding it sees some user input that I'm not sure where that is coming from. I don't have any keyboard or mouse connected.
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:31.970 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for automatic task)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.380 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (5413ms)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.530 - cSuspendInitiator - EnterStandby() done
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.660 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.670 - cSuspendInitiator - Suspend()
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.690 - Resuming userinterface
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:37.690 - RestoreTargets()
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.000 - eHome ResumeStart()
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.010 - Move to Recorded TV first
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.150 - Start at / Move to selected page
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.320 - Ehome.IsRunning() == true
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:23:38.360 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND done (765ms)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:24:32.650 - AwakeState: AS_MEDIACENTER
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:24:44.820 - User input detected (26974741)
Tue 05 Jan 2010 17:29:03.390 - Number of active recordings: 1
Tue 05 Jan 2010 18:00:01.045 - Number of active recordings: 0

2) The above coupled with the problem that I have to set the idle timeout to 3 hours to allow me to watch Netflix makes my system run fo 3 hours after each recording. Otherwise when watching Netflix (all in Win7) the system goes to sleep after the idle timeout while I am in the middle of a movie.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: hveijk on 6 January 2010, 12:41:46
@geku:

1. This is probably a result of the priority boost 0.9.098 gives eHome when closing it. This will be removed in the next version. A temporary solution is to change the MST eHome_BoostAtClose registry value to 0.

2. The media center idle counter apparently is not being reset at the time media center is started; this combined with a not detected keystroke (non MS remote?) might cause this. I have improved the start detection for the next version.

@ cuxbahh:

What sleep state are you using?



Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: geku on 6 January 2010, 18:48:11
Hi Herman,

thanks for the quick reply. Really appreciate your effort and donation is coming your way  . . .

1. This is probably a result of the priority boost 0.9.098 gives eHome when closing it. This will be removed in the next version. A temporary solution is to change the MST eHome_BoostAtClose registry value to 0.

Can I set this value via the UI of MST? Which option is it?

2. The media center idle counter apparently is not being reset at the time media center is started; this combined with a not detected keystroke (non MS remote?) might cause this. I have improved the start detection for the next version.

I'm using a Windows Remote, but the Antec Fusion Case, which has a built in receiver.


Looking forward tothe next Version   ::)

Georg


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: free30 on 6 January 2010, 21:22:31
'Win Idle' page,  'Time remaining until suspend'.  There is a count down then when it should sleep it just says Disabled where the timer was.

OK, this page is there mend to debug the idle detection of Windows itself, not to configure it!

Use the power options from the control panel to enable this detection.

The MST idle detection can be configured through the "idle" an "Auto task" tabs.

Thanks Hveijk,
But all setting are set to sleep and override anything stopping it, but it will not sleep after the timer has run out.

It's DVBLink software stopping sleep.  Wish they would sort out their software and I wouldn't need to hassle you guys.

I've noticed that my machine running RC Win7 there is 'Processor Power Management' under advance power management and on my machine running Retail Win7 it is not there.

Anyhow thanks for any help :specool:


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: cuxbahh on 16 January 2010, 03:22:50
@ cuxbahh:

What sleep state are you using?
S3


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 16 January 2010, 22:12:14
DVBLink shouldn't stop the system from going to sleep with the 'Ignore applications [...]' option enabled. It certainly doesn't stop it here, and I know several other installations where MST can put a DVBLink system to sleep.

The new DVBLink TvSource v2 (beta) has solved this problem anyway. It may be worth to upgrade if you think the problem is caused by DVBLink.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: nujabe on 18 January 2010, 15:41:01
Your mcestandby tool is very useful, i always used it with vista mce, and now, i have win7, and i have made a donation for the development of the application, if you make this application commercial, i buy it anytime!

Hey everybody don`t let go this guy with his great application, don`t hesitate to make a little donation.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: geku on 24 January 2010, 12:56:35
Hi Herman,

running v98 and no propblems with the FloppyDTV-S2 TV card. So everything is fine from that end.

One thing I noticed is the following:

Under VISTA, MST would wake the system for a recording and the monitor would display whatever is on there. After a short while the monitor timeout would kick in and switch the monitor off (no backlight). That's what I want because it saves maximum energy.

Under Win7, with version 98 MST displays a "black screen" when it wakes the system for a recording. The issue (at least for me) is, that the system never reaches the monitor timeout and the backlight stays on.

Can I configure this to show the previous behaviour?

Thanks, Georg


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Selcal on 24 January 2010, 22:03:40
Just a note for everyone who is waiting for support for Totalmedia Theatre or PowerDVD, so that the MST Standby Tool does not set the system to standby, here is a fairly simple workaround to at least watch the movies without having to go into MST settings, so you can stay on the couch :) :

(optional for extra simpleness):
Download Media Center Studio at http://adventmediacenter.com/ (http://adventmediacenter.com/), install it and run it (exit Media center for this).
Go to the "Start Menu" tab.
At the bottom of the window there is an "Entry Points" line which you can open with the down arrow, do this.
Four all four items there that are from Arcsoft (you can see by the logo), or if you have PowerDVD, it's items there:
    Double-click to open the item in a tab
    In the field "When launched, do the following:", set the option to "Pause the currently playing media"
    Save the item using the small disk item in the top toolbar, and close the tab
When all items are done, save the main menu using the save icon in the toolbar again, and close Media Center Studio.


Now, before you go and watch a Blu-ray or any other movie using TMT or PDVD:
Start any MediaCenter item, you can choose a music song, start a photo slideshow, go into Live TV or play a recorded TV, start a video, anything
(If you HAVEN'T done the steps above, pause the playback.)
Switch to the main menu (DON'T *STOP* what you're playing, it should still be in the 'Now Playing' line).
Start PowerDVD/TMT, either by it's menu icon, or by inserting a disc. (If you have done the above steps, the playback in the background will automatically pause, so sound and CPU use will stop for you.)

(background:) Since the playback of whatever you started will now be paused, MST will see Mediacenter as not idle, and it will not put your HTPC to standby.

When you're finished with your movie, don't forget to just stop whatever you started in mediacenter before the movie, so that the system will automatically standby again.

Hope it can help someone! (at least a little).


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Tester on 1 February 2010, 17:30:37
Selcal,
Thanks for the tip...  Interestingly enough, I can watch a full movie with Powerdvd without this tip and the system does not go into sleep.
However, when I use the AutoRip plugin ( see Green Button plugins ), it will go into sleep unless I do something.  I will try your tip while using AutoRip and report back.

Thanks
Tester


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: JohnnyC on 6 February 2010, 22:02:05
Hello,

I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800 tuner and an ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO motherboard running Windows 7.  When the computer first starts up, everything works as expected, but after the computer wakes from sleeping, I get a "No TV Signal" message when trying to view any channel.  I downloaded your program, but couldn't find any settings that seemed to make a difference.  In my BIOS, I have my power settings at S3.  Any ideas what I might try?

Thanks!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Stiggy on 19 February 2010, 08:44:02
Can we please have a link for the latest stable version for the Windows 7 version of the MCE Tool? It is getting very hard to find!


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: blackEyEz on 25 February 2010, 16:39:03
Where is the windows 7 beta? could someone post a link straight to the file, please

Thank you


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: Borri on 25 February 2010, 18:05:05
Look in Reply #87 on page 6 of this thread.


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: KleMC on 4 March 2010, 21:46:55
Hi Herman,

thanks a lot for the W7 beta, I have been a fan of MST (and a donator) since the Vista times. One thing I noticed after a few months of testing v0.9.098: whilst waking up for a recording and going back to sleep afterwards works perfectly, pressing standby during an ongoing recording does not lead to the machine going into standby after the recording is finished (the screen goes black and sound goes mute presumably going into away mode, but this stays). I am now playing with the user idle setting, but this is something that definately worked in Vista - maybe you have time to correct this for the next version...

The only other problem I had was pressing the green button whilst a scheduled recording was going on (ie waking up for the recording). The screen stayed black and I could not continue in Media Center (either I had to reset the computer or wait for the recording to finish).

thanks again, hope to see a final release soon and keep up the good work,
KleMC


Title: Re:MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
Post by: str on 4 April 2010, 23:42:07
Hi,

Does anybody know how to uninstall MCE Standby Tool ?
I installed the program to get the computer to go to S3 sleep / hibernate mode.
It didn't work the discs is still spinning. Instaed it now takes forever to start up. I uninstalled the program in windows but the machine still takes forever to start up, please can anybody help me ?

/STR