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« on: 5 March 2010, 09:26:37 »

Finally it's there: the long awaited 0.9.099 beta version of the MCE Standby Tool!

I have seriously improved the idle detection, blanking, generic stability and Windows 7 compatibility.
Besides that I have added some more debug information and a few other tweaks.

This one might be pretty close to a new final. 

Please drop your experiences in this thread, include a log in case of an issue.
Don't be disappointed if your not getting a response from me personally, I do read every post and use as much of the info as possible.

Herman

Download: mst0.9.099.exe
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« Reply #1 on: 5 March 2010, 10:09:37 »

THX is this the version you mentioned where to select a radio channel after coming out of standby?
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« Reply #2 on: 6 March 2010, 09:37:31 »

THX is this the version you mentioned where to select a radio channel after coming out of standby?

Yes, this version is able to (re)start eHome and directly start a plug-in.
The plug-in has to be prepared for that by registering the starting point (this is not a MST meganism, this is part of eHome).

If you wat your mediacenter to start a radio station at resume:

- First install MST and choose "extensibility application" as the eHome start page.
- Next install Slick Radio NL, it will now give you the option to select an "Autostart station"

This is a very basic implementation, there are only a few stations to choose from.
If you would like me to add another one, drop me a note at the Slick Radio subforum.

The plan is to let Slick Radio start the station that was listened to the last time, (some future version of Slick Radio)
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« Reply #3 on: 8 March 2010, 17:26:46 »

Hello
Used this wonderful tool for a while now, i have changed to Windows 7 and have a problem.
After a recording, the system does not suspend again.
I have noticed the message "MCE standby tool is unable to distinguish between scheduled tasks and user tasks" is this the cause?
I also had this issue in vista but the message disappeared after a reload.

Was hoping this latest beta would solve this?

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« Reply #4 on: 11 March 2010, 12:39:31 »

Hello
Used this wonderful tool for a while now, i have changed to Windows 7 and have a problem.
After a recording, the system does not suspend again.
I have noticed the message "MCE standby tool is unable to distinguish between scheduled tasks and user tasks" is this the cause?
I also had this issue in vista but the message disappeared after a reload.

Was hoping this latest beta would solve this?

Thanks
Casman

This is a result of using the S4 sleep state (or a bad Intel driver back in the XP MCE 2005 days).
When using this sleep state the operating system is not able to tell MST why it is woken.

Either
 - check “Assume any resume without user activity is an automatic task”
or
 - start using hybrid sleep (S3+S4), which combines the benefits of both S3 and S4, or even better start using S3.
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« Reply #5 on: 11 March 2010, 14:58:45 »

This version works perfect for me!  thumbsup

I made a donation, because I thought of all the money your tool saved me by cutting my power-bills!

Keep on the good work!
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« Reply #6 on: 12 March 2010, 07:36:49 »

Hi Herman,

thank's A LOT for thi stool and the new version... works "mostly" fine or me.  specool

Yesterday I sent my system to S3 (at 23:45) and tried to resume at 23:47. However resume did not work completely! System woke up, but only a blank screen appeared, no iMON initialized, no mediacenter, no Mouse Pointer).

However, the system itself was alive! Hitting Ctrl-Alt-Delete showed the usual "Shutdown/Logoff/..:" Screen. Clicking "cancel" from here brought me back to my user sesion... which was again the Blank screen.  wacko

I was finally forced to Logoff/Logon to solved the isseue.

Looks like the resume process got stuck in MST while the screen was blanked.  blink
Never had that issue with the previous version, I believe. I'm also unable to reproduce that.

Best regards...
Diddle.



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Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:45:07.224 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (3916ms)
                              ...
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:45:08.557 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:25.500 - IsSystemResumeAutomatic(): 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:26.025 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (...)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.321 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.322 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 2
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.322 - IsSystemResumeAutomatic(): 0
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.323 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (14290ms)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.323 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.323 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.324 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:41.924 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:41.926 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.890 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (1)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.890 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.900 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.900 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 2
                              Reversed resume order
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.901 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.901 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.902 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (2)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.902 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.902 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.903 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.892 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (3)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.892 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.893 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.893 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 2
                              Reversed resume order
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.895 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.895 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.896 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (4)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.896 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.896 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.897 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:48.599 - RestoreTargets()
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:48.599 - eHome ResumeStart()
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:48.600 - Delaying eHome start for 1000 milliseconds.
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:49.607 - Starting Tray Applet
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:49.607 - C:\Windows\eHome\ehTray.exe
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:51:07.395 - cSuspendInitiator - UseLegacyCall_ == false
                              ---------------------------------------------------
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:51:07.606 - Starting MCE Standby Tool
                              MST Version         : 0.9.099
                              Build               : Mar  4 2010, 19:39:40
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« Reply #7 on: 12 March 2010, 11:12:37 »

Hi Herman,

thank's A LOT for this tool and the new version... works "mostly" fine or me.  specool

Yesterday I sent my system to S3 (at 23:45) and tried to resume at 23:47. However resume did not work completely! System woke up, but only a blank screen appeared, no iMON initialized, no mediacenter, no Mouse Pointer).

However, the system itself was alive! Hitting Ctrl-Alt-Delete showed the usual "Shutdown/Logoff/..:" Screen. Clicking "cancel" from here brought me back to my user sesion... which was again the Blank screen.  wacko

I was finally forced to Logoff/Logon to solved the isseue.

Looks like the resume process got stuck in MST while the screen was blanked.  blink
Never had that issue with the previous version, I believe. I'm also unable to reproduce that.

Best regards...
Diddle.



--- snip
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:45:07.224 - PBT_APMSUSPEND done (3916ms)
                              ...
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:45:08.557 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:25.500 - IsSystemResumeAutomatic(): 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:26.025 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (...)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.321 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.322 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 2
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.322 - IsSystemResumeAutomatic(): 0
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.323 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC done (14290ms)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.323 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.323 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:40.324 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:41.924 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:47:41.926 - PBT_POWERSETTINGCHANGE - MONITOR_POWER_ON: 0
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.890 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (1)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.890 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.900 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:04.900 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 2
                              Reversed resume order
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.901 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.901 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.902 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (2)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.902 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.902 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:05.903 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.892 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (3)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.892 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC (Resume for user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.893 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 1
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:36.893 - PBT_APMRESUMEAUTOMATIC timing 2
                              Reversed resume order
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.895 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.895 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.896 - Nested WM_POWERBROADCAST (4)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.896 - PBT_APMRESUMESUSPEND (Start user interaction)
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.896 - Resuming userinterface
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:49:37.897 - Waking monitor/TV
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:48.599 - RestoreTargets()
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:48.599 - eHome ResumeStart()
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:48.600 - Delaying eHome start for 1000 milliseconds.
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:49.607 - Starting Tray Applet
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:50:49.607 - C:\Windows\eHome\ehTray.exe
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:51:07.395 - cSuspendInitiator - UseLegacyCall_ == false
                              ---------------------------------------------------
Do 11 Mrz 2010 23:51:07.606 - Starting MCE Standby Tool
                              MST Version         : 0.9.099
                              Build               : Mar  4 2010, 19:39:40
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« Reply #8 on: 12 March 2010, 18:15:38 »

Hi there... many thanks for the download its solved the problem of my media centre not hibernating at the end of a sheduled recording...

the only wierd thing now though is that when a recording ends it hibernates, turns itself back on for a minute or so, and then hibernates for good. Why does it do this?!?!? any ideas?

Also is there a way so that the screen does not come on and stay on for the duration of the recording? I leave it on so when the pc is turned on it is there but I'd prefer if it didnt come on when the computer is merely recording. any suggestions?

Otherwise many thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: 12 March 2010, 19:14:48 »

Herman,

Thanks for the new version!  So far, it is working well for me.  I will continue to do more testing.  I have noticed a couple of things:

1. I am using Windows 7 MediaCenter, and I have enabled Netflix streaming.  When I stream a movie from Netflix through W7 MCE, MCE Standby Tool sees Media Center as idle and puts the system in standby after 30 minutes (the Media Center idle timeout value).  I have to uncheck the "Suspend when Media Center is running and idle" box to get a movie to play all the way to the end without suspending.

2. I still cannot get my automatic backup from Windows Home Server to complete.  With WHS, you install a client on all of your PC's which provides easy access to the shared folders, as well as automatic nightly backups.  What seems to be happening is that WHS sends out a wakeup to the Media Center PC a few minutes ahead of time to prepare for the backup to run.  The backup does not start immediately, and the PC goes back to sleep after 5-6 minutes.  The backup then fails because it expected the PC to be awake.

Thanks...John
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« Reply #10 on: 13 March 2010, 13:11:05 »

since a few days my htpc doesn't automatically go to s3, so i checked with your programm and it says a program is preventing standby, the list which shows what exactly blocks just has multiple entries like this:
"[DRIVER] J"
maybe a little more information there could help me, because i couldn't find any driver named "J"...

thanks in advance
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« Reply #11 on: 13 March 2010, 16:41:26 »

Hi,

I have just found your tool in my quest to figure out why my Gyration Remote control does not wake my system from S3.

Other USB deviecs are able to wake the system from S3 (Wireless Keyboard with USB Dongle for example).

What can I try to get the gyration remote to wake this system from S3?
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« Reply #12 on: 13 March 2010, 16:55:28 »

Your Gyration remote receiver should be listed and checked under the Devices-tab, make sure the receiver is allowed to wake the computer from S3 in Device Manager. There are mainboards on which not all USB-ports are powered under S3, make sure you connect the receiver to one that is powered and also check your bios setttings.

Also, on the Gyration website this device is listed as a problemchild under Windows 7.
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« Reply #13 on: 14 March 2010, 18:21:19 »

1. I am using Windows 7 MediaCenter, and I have enabled Netflix streaming.  When I stream a movie from Netflix through W7 MCE, MCE Standby Tool sees Media Center as idle and puts the system in standby after 30 minutes (the Media Center idle timeout value).  I have to uncheck the "Suspend when Media Center is running and idle" box to get a movie to play all the way to the end without suspending.

I see the same behavior in Win 7 64 bit Media Center with Arcsoft Totalmedia Theatre v3 watching blu-ray discs.

Note that Media Center simply runs this Arcsoft executable (uMCEDVDPlayer.exe) creating the illusion that it's a native Media Center application.

If I run this executable outside of Media Center I don't have the problem so it appears that Media Center and hence the Standby Tool is unaware the application is running and the Media Center idle timeout counts down etc. 

So perhaps part if not all these problems are application based but it would be great if there were a workaround other than disabling the standby tool media center suspend setting (perhaps an applications exceptions list?)

EDIT: Just saw some related posts from the previous beta thread on this page
MCE Standby Tool 0.9.094 on Windows 7
http://www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,4989.135.html
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« Reply #14 on: 15 March 2010, 13:50:02 »

Thanks for making this beta available for Win7 !!!

It works very well for me only the option to skip the password entering page does not work for me, when it reboots or starts from scratch, the password still needs to be entered... is this somethig that changed with Win7? I am using the 64bit btw.

Regards
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